Federal AWB

BosnMate said:
OK, definition of cheap is made in China. But you have only answered part of the question. Where do I buy handguns made in China? Don't tell me gun shows. I go to gun shows, and haven't ever seen a cheap Chinese handgun at a gun show. In fact all the guns I see at gun shows are overpriced and expensive. It's easy to run off at the mouth, I'm not interested in platitudes, how much money is cheap, and where do I find Chinese cheap hand guns. Oh yeah, just for the record, if you buy a gun in Oregon at a gun show, you have to pass a background check, and if you are out of state, you aint getting the gun, so at least in Oregon, the gun show loophole is pure liberal BS. Back to cheap Chinese, I don't want to hear SKS, they are -- Oh horrors, assault rifles -- and they are no longer cheap. I bought three for $100 each and a ton of ammo for them, but those days are gone forever, and there is no longer cheap Chinese ammunition, now days it's really expensive, and although they are fun to shoot, it became expensive enough to take the fun out, and I didn't want to reload for them, so now my kids have cheap Chinese rifles. Of course the guns were cheap to the kids, because I gave them the guns, and in my book free is cheap. So I guess if someone is giving away free Chinese hand guns, then in my book, that's cheap. But what I'm asking you is please tell us what amount of money you think is cheap, and where do I purchase those cheap hand guns besides traveling to China. I'm tired of hearing this crap being repeated after hearing it on CNN or some other liberal rag, and then repeating it for truth. Is $40 cheap? When I was 16 I bought a Colt Huntsman for $40. Had to lay it away and pay for it over time. That same gun couldn't be purchased for $600 now. Is that cheap? I want to know what cheap guns are arming the gangs in Chicago. Come on, you guys that no so much about guns, tells us the truth, no what if's or liberal lies.

Try cobra ent handguns, a bunch of diff models for under 150 new which I would consider pretty cheap. About the same as an entry level metal detector. I'm sure it can be had used for a lot less. It's America also - I think they are our of Utah.

My guess is a search on google for cheap handgun could yield man results. Also try estate sales etc - sometimes good guns can be had cheap.

Best of luck.
 

Treasure_Hunter said:
2nd Amendment says

" The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Trying to outlaw semi-auto rifles along with the rest is a major infringement of our rights under the 2nd Amendment..

If that was a true statement than how could the fawb become law?? Or the Brady bill, etc, etc. guns have been constitutionally regulated since the founding of this country. In not saying its right or good, but it is a fact. Hundreds of years of constitutional law back this up. Best
 

If that was a true statement than how could the fawb become law?? Or the Brady bill, etc, etc. guns have been constitutionally regulated since the founding of this country. In not saying its right or good, but it is a fact. Hundreds of years of constitutional law back this up. Best

And a hundred years from now; are we gonna have RAY GUNS...?
 

Rebel - KGC said:
And a hundred years from now; are we gonna have RAY GUNS...?

And if we do and the people if the united state believe they should be in citizens hands they will be. If they believe they should not then they will have the constitutional right to restrict ray guns. That's the beauty of our wonderful constitution. Best to all.
 

And if we do and the people if the united state believe they should be in citizens hands they will be. If they believe they should not then they will have the constitutional right to restrict ray guns. That's the beauty of our wonderful constitution. Best to all.

As it will be soon...
 

Try cobra ent handguns, a bunch of diff models for under 150 new which I would consider pretty cheap. About the same as an entry level metal detector. I'm sure it can be had used for a lot less. It's America also - I think they are our of Utah.

My guess is a search on google for cheap handgun could yield man results. Also try estate sales etc - sometimes good guns can be had cheap.

Best of luck.

OK, so Cobra handguns for $150 are a definition of cheap. I'm not going to google them because I really don't care, you answered my question, and frankly I doubt that a single gang member in Chicago is armed with a Cobra handgun just because he can buy it cheap. I'm a gun nut, I shoot and my friends shoot, and I don't know anyone with a Cobra handgun, and I didn't seen any for sale last weekend at the gun show. Are you saying that's what fuels crime, $150 Cobra handguns? Are they flooding the market and causing crime or perverted murders of little kids. Are all the criminals lined up buying nothing but Cobra handguns because they are cheap? I don't think so. I think your bucket has a hole in it. Maybe we should out law estate sales because there might be a cheap gun sold there. I've been to estate sales, and those guns have always been over priced in my experience. You're the one that says there should be no cheap handguns, and we have established that $150 is cheap, although in today's economy I'm inclined to disagree with you, a guy on minimum wage would have trouble buying one at that price. Be that as it may, $150 guns aren't flooding the market or the cause of crime. Estate sales are hit and miss, but I would agree that they need to be outlawed, because someone might even find a bargain on an antique gun, or maybe dad's 30-30 might go for less than a gun store would sell it, and we have to control that. You people that want to blame guns and think we need to have compromise and restrictions and laws controlling guns, when the books are already loaded with laws that aren't being enforced. So what will more unenforced laws do? It will affect law abiding people, but won't bother a crook one iota. There are people that want to take the rednecks guns away, but the liberals are the problem. Don't believe me, do a little research on Chicago, there isn't a single redneck with any authority in all of Cook County.
 

Hey picker,i,m not a legal authority on federal law. My take on previous ban was is was not unconstitutional in courts opinion as it was passed. By the margin caused by allowing pre ban items all ready within the country to remain legal. thin gravy but existing were not considered illegal. Possibly part of the current stampede to acquire them now.
Banning manufacture or import should have been challenged as unconstitutional as well but i have no record of such in limited search.
Previous ban was not substantially challenged .(even by NRA) due to perceived hostility of the supreme court. Many cases with different results,registration in one case voted down yet still stood. ? A challenge expected should it become law(awb) again. Courts seem to agree some restriction allowed. Was it heller?court said a handgun was a common (making it acceptable)form of self defence to bear but certain long guns were not.
 

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BosnMate said:
OK, so Cobra handguns for $150 are a definition of cheap. I'm not going to google them because I really don't care, you answered my question, and frankly I doubt that a single gang member in Chicago is armed with a Cobra handgun just because he can buy it cheap. I'm a gun nut, I shoot and my friends shoot, and I don't know anyone with a Cobra handgun, and I didn't seen any for sale last weekend at the gun show. Are you saying that's what fuels crime, $150 Cobra handguns? Are they flooding the market and causing crime or perverted murders of little kids. Are all the criminals lined up buying nothing but Cobra handguns because they are cheap? I don't think so. I think your bucket has a hole in it. Maybe we should out law estate sales because there might be a cheap gun sold there. I've been to estate sales, and those guns have always been over priced in my experience. You're the one that says there should be no cheap handguns, and we have established that $150 is cheap, although in today's economy I'm inclined to disagree with you, a guy on minimum wage would have trouble buying one at that price. Be that as it may, $150 guns aren't flooding the market or the cause of crime. Estate sales are hit and miss, but I would agree that they need to be outlawed, because someone might even find a bargain on an antique gun, or maybe dad's 30-30 might go for less than a gun store would sell it, and we have to control that. You people that want to blame guns and think we need to have compromise and restrictions and laws controlling guns, when the books are already loaded with laws that aren't being enforced. So what will more unenforced laws do? It will affect law abiding people, but won't bother a crook one iota. There are people that want to take the rednecks guns away, but the liberals are the problem. Don't believe me, do a little research on Chicago, there isn't a single redneck with any authority in all of Cook County.

Just answering your question - thought you were trying to find a cheap handgun. Not looking for any type of debate. My guess and only a guess that many of the handguns being used to criminals are stolen and not purchased new. Probably plenty of high quality guns that crack heads have stolen that can be Bought for pennies on the dollar. Best
 

releventchair said:
Hey picker,i,m not a legal authority on federal law. My take on previous ban was is was not unconstitutional in courts opinion as it was passed. By the margin caused by allowing pre ban items all ready within the country to remain legal. thin gravy but existing were not considered illegal. Possibly part of the current stampede to acquire them now.
Banning manufacture or import should have been challenged as unconstitutional as well but i have no record of such in limited search.
Previous ban was not substantially challenged .(even by NRA) due to perceived hostility of the supreme court. Many cases with different results,registration in one case voted down yet still stood. ? A challenge expected should it become law(awb) again. Courts seem to agree some restriction allowed. Was it heller?court said a handgun was a common (making it acceptable)form of self defence to bear but certain long guns were not.

Yup. That's why it's just outright lies or ignorance to start throwing around the whole unconstitutional thing. Fear mongering by NRA and big gun looking to take advantage of current situation to get peoples money - and it's working!! Guns have been controlled in some form or another from the beginning. This happens at the state level all the time and sometimes at the fed level. All legal, all constitutional. And actually lately more gun laws rulings by the court have actually upheld gun rights so this thought that all rights are being stripped away is again lies or ignorance.

I'm not saying I agree with the laws or that I think they work, etc. that's a debate that's been going on for ever. But the whole constitutionality of the subject is BS.

Who wants to guess what kind of huge pay raise the NRA execs get this year for all their fear mongering!!! Good for them.

Best.
 

Till challenged successfully its still an argument. One other thing needing clarity pardon the repetition, is the hot potato back and forth between fed and state regarding law. Much was left in states hands,yet federal affects. Getting beyond awb here but should other provisions be attached,(what are odds!) Conflict between the two will cause more challenges. A possible fly in ointment but lets see what gets presented first.

Orders for certain arms to gov are prioritized by "big gun", another reason for current orders going unfilled for civilians. how hard can gov restrict industry without losing its provider? Tricky to out source when encouraging domestic loyalty,then there is the quality issue.
Yes good for NRA execs,pay and job security. They are hiring for some positions too. positive job growth,hurray!
 

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releventchair said:
Till challenged successfully its still an argument. One other thing needing clarity pardon the repetition, is the hot potato back and forth between fed and state regarding law. Much was left in states hands,yet federal affects. Getting beyond awb here but should other provisions be attached,(what are odds!) Conflict between the two will cause more challenges. A possible fly in ointment but lets see what gets presented first.

Orders for certain arms to gov are prioritized by "big gun", another reason for current orders going unfilled for civilians. how hard can gov restrict industry without losing its provider? Tricky to out source when encouraging domestic loyalty,then there is the quality issue.
Yes good for NRA execs,pay and job security. They are hiring for some positions too. positive job growth,hurray!

Good points chair. You seem to have an intelligent, unbiased well informed view on things. We can all disagree on opinion - but facts are facts. Best.
 

Reb, i have not made it to the fire ring yet. Back is protesting snow shoveling. Missing it though.
Picker, if i disagree its not personal if i can help it. Willing to debate usually and if i need a friend its when i,m wrong,good luck there!
Regards.
 

All in all I think the government, not all but surenuff some at the top, know what they want and they know the easiest way to get it is to disarm the populace like that other guy did in the late 1930s and 40s.:notworthy:
 

Miller welcome to TreasureNet.......
 

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