Federal AWB

[0121stockpicker]

Was the federal assault weapons ban unconstitutional?

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

LOL! OR... WILL it be!

 

[0121stockpicker]

Was the federal assault weapons ban unconstitutional?

Anyone want to take a crack at this. Pro gun / pro control - go for it.

 

[dieselram94]

Stockpicker, to me shall not be infringed is pretty cut and dry......

 

[0121stockpicker]

If that's the case than how was this made into a constitutional law and remained on the books until it expired. If you were correct wouldn't it have been immediately deemed unconstitutional? But it wasnt, it was deemed totally constitutional. Maybe it's as cut in dry just dropping the "shall not be infringed". Looks like that has not been deemed to be a constitutionally relevant argument. Correct?

In the end has can this constitutional law have existed, yet any sort of gun control be unconstitutional. Or are there plenty of controls, limits, checks etc that can be put in place yet still not run afoul of the 2nd ? Any thoughts?

 

[pong12211]

Is treating people who have done nothing wrong like crimminals unconstitutional.. That answer should be a given...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

If that's the case than how was this made into a constitutional law and remained on the books until it expired. If you were correct wouldn't it have been immediately deemed unconstitutional? But it wasnt, it was deemed totally constitutional. Maybe it's as cut in dry just dropping the "shall not be infringed". Looks like that has not been deemed to be a constitutionally relevant argument. Correct?

In the end has can this constitutional law have existed, yet any sort of gun control be unconstitutional. Or are there plenty of controls, limits, checks etc that can be put in place yet still not run afoul of the 2nd ? Any thoughts?

Almost certain US Congress is debating now... holding committees, holding hearings; Jimmy Lee didn't help.

 

[Red James Cash]

If youre dealing with a corrupt government expect corrupt laws to be passed regardless of law.

 

[0121stockpicker]

If youre dealing with a corrupt government expect corrupt laws to be passed regardless of law.

You'd need a lot of correct folks - senators, reps, Supreme Court judges, etc, etc.

But fed assault weapons ban was passed without corruption - right. Reagan himself lobbied to get it passed. It was a failure of a law, but a constitutional one none the less correct?

 

[Red James Cash]

But fed assault weapons ban was passed without corruption - right. Reagan himself lobbied to get it passed. It was a failure of a law, but a constitutional one none the less correct?

Maybe,but deep down inside how do you really know.Reagan was shot with a .22 revolver why pick on the socalled assault rifles that nobody can legally own without a class 3 permit.

 

[0121stockpicker]

Maybe,but deep down inside how do you really know.Reagan was shot with a .22 revolver why pick on the socalled assault rifles that nobody can legally own without a class 3 permit.

Completely agree with that. If we really wanted to make a diff on crime they would clamp down on dirt cheap hand guns - that's what drives s lot of this urban crime. But big scary military looking rifles get a lot better press and crank up the gun control folks.

 

[Chadeaux]

Was a big issue in the 70's even prompted a song . . .



Problem is . . . the AWB isn't about people dying, it IS about disarming the public.

Handguns are the most popular weapon of criminals, but they want to take away the long rifle?

You don't smell something fishy?

 

[0121stockpicker]

Was a big issue in the 70's even prompted a song . . .

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFfiSGy26wA

Problem is . . . the AWB isn't about people dying, it IS about disarming the public.

Handguns are the most popular weapon of criminals, but they want to take away the long rifle?

You don't smell something fishy?

I completely agree the real problem is hand guns ( but lets face it that the NRA and big gun would be up in arms if the gov tried to regulate hand guns).

I think it's a little too high on my conspiracy theory scale to say they are going after military looking rifles to disarm the public. I would say they are going after these weapons as they have been seen by the public at large to be the weapons used in the latest mass shootings. They slso make for must better photo shots than a little 22. they look like the same guns they see soldiers carrying etc. obviously I'm don't agree with this st all but I'm just saying this is more the motivator than a UN take over. Best

 

[0121stockpicker]

Was a big issue in the 70's even prompted a song . . .

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFfiSGy26wA

Problem is . . . the AWB isn't about people dying, it IS about disarming the public.

Handguns are the most popular weapon of criminals, but they want to take away the long rifle?

You don't smell something fishy?

And no offense to big gun but the produce these ultra cheap throw away guns knowing that they are going to be bought and used primarily by criminals. And the NRA supports them. This hurts law abiding gun owners as much as anything the "liberals" do and all NRA members should tell the NRA to cut it out.

 

[Chadeaux]

I completely agree the real problem is hand guns ( but lets face it that the NRA and big gun would be up in arms if the gov tried to regulate hand guns).

WRONG!

The biggest opponents would be The Bloods, The Crips, La Raza, The Latin Kings, MS-13, etc. A big bunch of what's his name supporters.

Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson would end up in a fist fight trying to be the first to be in front of the cameras declaring how racist the crackdown would be . . . then king louie would join in and it would be a free for all.

THAT is who would go crazy over such a crackdown. I don't think banning is the answer but handguns ARE THE REAL PROBLEM.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

JIMMY LEE DYKES!

 

[Chadeaux]

JIMMY LEE DYKES!

So, Reb, were you guys going steady or something?

 

[jerseyben]

Was the federal assault weapons ban unconstitutional?

Has anyone actually responded to your original question?

For 10 years was it ever ruled unconstitutional?

 

[0121stockpicker]

Of course there has never been an answer. People know that it was never ruled unconstitutional and that it is completely constitutional to place restrictions and regulation on guns. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just saying its completely within the law.

As I'm sure you realize instead of just discussing the truth many people just keep spewing the same "gun don't kill people, people kill people", "Obama is going to repeal the second", "first it's military like rifles, next we are all in FEMA camps, etc.

It's pretty sad how some people just completely have the blinders on and refuse to even acknowledge just a simple fact. It's like those 3 monkeys. If its not completely in agreement with their world view, then it's completely wrong no matter if its fact or not. Those type of people usually seek to surround themselves with others that can support that same world view so they all feel like they are right and can be self supported. You will prob notice that. Best.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

So, Reb, were you guys going steady or something?

NOPE, you a BIG fan of Jimmy Lee...?