Effigy or just a rock

krbrid

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Jan 5, 2016
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Was wondering if anyone has ever seen anything like this. I found it in Southern Kentucky near the confluence of two creeks along the bank of the larger creek a few yards from where I found a flint spear point. The type of stone and color it is made out of is unlike anything else in the area which is mostly river rock along with some isolated flint-like material. It appears to have been hand worked with squared off edges and there are two what appear to be drilled semi-circular holes running in opposit directions at each end. Some of it appears to have been lightly polished while other parts of it are rough and unfinished. Although some of it may have broken off at some point long ago, I find it difficult to believe the uniqueness of its shape could be caused by natural processes. The location where it was discovered would be an ideal location for a prehistoric camp or village sight. To me, it appears to be some kind of effigy. It is about 4 or 5 inches long, 2.5 to 3 inches thick at its thickest point. The apparently drilled holes are about 3/4 of an inch in diameter. Could this be some kind of ancient Native American effigy, or is it just a rock?

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Your item looks pretty natural to me! But you could share that flint spear head in the North American Indian Forums though.
 

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Just natural rock with erosion..
 

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You guys got more experience in this stuff than me...but I see flat sides, 90' angles and 360' hollows. To me this has been altered by more than nature. My first thought would be a tool the indians used to straighten spear shafts. I know...I have a wild imagination. But the natives didnt have typically have 90'squares
 

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That's strange and being all of a natural source I'm on the fence over this one. To me it looks like a baked adobe mud. Is it as hard as a rock or will it scratch easily. ??
 

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That's strange and being all of a natural source I'm on the fence over this one. To me it looks like a baked adobe mud. Is it as hard as a rock or will it scratch easily. ??

YOu raise a good question. But he is in KY not out west even though it does look like adobe. Could be some kind of appalachian brick
 

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I have seen that material which is common to your area. It from underground cave system. It does have what looks to be a worked area on it . But before I can say for sure. I would need to see an up close pictures of it. It look very similar to this piece here
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Show me a close up and I will be able to help you to determine.
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Thanx for the responses. It could very well be just a rock with some odd errosion effects...but I keep coming back to those squared off edges, and circular holes, and the fact it looked totally out of place with the other naturally occuring typical river rocks in the area. Also, take into account whatever this is has been sitting out in the elements for a very long time. Long term errosion (thousands of years more than likely) would probably have turned this into a random mass of jagged angles. However, if it had been hand worked lets say a few hundred years ago, those semipolished squared off areas, and the half circles might not show all that much errosion, like what we see in the images, especially if it were buried. The overall appearance of the object, especially when looked at from above has a very squared off look to it, except a portion of it appears to be missing on one end. If you look closely at the semi-circular holes, I see what appear to be drill bit marks running across the grain, across the circle. Natural errosion I would think would have created marks running the length of the holes in the same dirction. Also if you look at the flat semi-polished surfaces, there also appears to be scuff marks running parallel with angle of the squared surface. Certainly I am no expert and only making observations of what I see, but personnally I believe it to be a hand made object with part of it broken off. Anyway...I think it is an interesting piece regardless. thanx again.
 

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OK with that close I can see what I needed. This is what you need to do so you can see it. With low light from the rear higher than the stone . As you take a series of picture rotate the stone. As you do this u will see the raised area. It a hidden message. In or to understand the message you will need the study Spanish treasure codes and symbols. Let me know I will help you.in Pms

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Here is what you miss. This piece is loaded with code.
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You should be able to see now. Even on the upper part has it.

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I have seen that material which is common to your area. It from underground cave system. It does have what looks to be a worked area on it . But before I can say for sure. I would need to see an up close pictures of it. It
Show me a close up and I will be able to help you to determine.
Bwb

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Here is what you miss. This piece is loaded with code.
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You should be able to see now. Even on the upper part has it.

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Let us all in on the secret spanish code to treasure mapping. If you are not wanting to make it public send me a pm. Really want to know what you see.
 

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It would take weeks just to decode that one stone. I will however give you the reference materials That I use.
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These are just a few out there.

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The coding and symbols on the stone are the same as the big stone monuments out west. Much smaller. Ck. Out the other tread dealing with the subjects. Happy hunting and be careful out there.

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Hidden codes / messages? Hope you're not trying to pull my leg on this because I am pretty sure there are no hidden codes here. Did take another look at it and there are no discernable symbols on it anywhere, some weathering yes, but no I see nothing of the sort. I do believe it is a unique find and pretty sure it was hand worked, but unless a trained eye confirms it, it's just an interesting rock for now. I have some professor friends who work at Western Kentucky University and I might show it to someone in the WKU Archeology section to see what they think. Thanx for the feedback.
 

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Go ahead. When looked at closely you can see the number and other things. I made it as big as I could. To the left side of the marking you should be able to see something. I'm not play with you.. I told you how to use the light. It up to you. Knowing what you see is another.if you do what I told you to it will help.

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Looked and relooked and looked again. Tell us the abreviated message. What do you see that is code. It wont take weeks. One line will work
 

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