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divewrecks · Apr 15, 2010

Damn, I broke my cob in half....
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-REALE-1715-FLEET-treasure-coin_W0QQitemZ260586602091

Stan

dread · Apr 15, 2010

there is a lesson here for all of us DONT DROP YOUR COBS!

divewrecks · Apr 16, 2010

MORE AND BEYOND OSSY · Apr 17, 2010

Thanks Stan, But Crackbadger octopus is beautiful, I have asked him for a price for one. Hopefully I won't have to get a second job to pay for it :laughing7:

Cheers, Ossy

dagfoto · Apr 18, 2010

Hmm.. went from one shipwreck - to Authentic .. off another ..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220591189538

http://cgi.ebay.com/8-reales-1731-oM-F-Shipwreck-recovered_W0QQitemZ350335468052

dread · Apr 18, 2010

well spotted i wonder who the sellers got the same coin from
i was going to say one could be the original but i cant tell them apart even the weathering is the same
Stan will get a kick out of this

well done!

TheTreasureAddict · Apr 18, 2010

MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
Thanks Stan, But Crackbadger octopus is beautiful, I have asked him for a price for one. Hopefully I won't have to get a second job to pay for it
Cheers, Ossy

Ya Ossy,

Ill have a price for you tomorrow. Shes been gone and shell be back tomorrow so Ill get you a qoute brother.

Here it is again!

divewrecks · Apr 18, 2010

CRACKBADGER said:
Here it is again!

Looks awesome. The back looks just as good as the front!

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 18, 2010

dread said:
well spotted i wonder who the sellers got the same coin from
i was going to say one could be the original but i cant tell them apart even the weathering is the same
Stan will get a kick out of this

well done!

Yup, already gave him a slap on the back! Seeing what kind of answers I can get now from original seller.

Stan

dread · Apr 18, 2010

DiveWrecks said:
dread said:

well spotted i wonder who the sellers got the same coin from
i was going to say one could be the original but i cant tell them apart even the weathering is the same
Stan will get a kick out of this

well done!

Click to expand...

Yup, already gave him a slap on the back! Seeing what kind of answers I can get now from original seller.

Stan

i did not look at the dates sorry Stan its not a reproduction thing (second seller gets coin from first seller on 7th april check feedback first seller, second seller is same one selling it now)
first seller thinks its from Rooswijk no cert, second seller has same coin with case and cert from Flying Hart
very odd

divewrecks · Apr 18, 2010

Shameless plug....

http://shop.ebay.com/*divewrecks*/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

If you win one of my auctions and are a TNet member let me know and I'll throw in an extra gift with the shipment.... :icon_thumleft:

Stan

NHBandit · Apr 19, 2010

DiveWrecks said:
Shameless plug....

http://shop.ebay.com/*divewrecks*/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

If you win one of my auctions and are a TNet member let me know and I'll throw in an extra gift with the shipment....

Stan

Stan your link dosn't work and doing an Ebay search for a seller with the username "divewrecks" turns up a guy who has a feedback rating of 9, burned a couple of people back in 07, and hasn't been heard from since. You might want to fix your link.. :icon_thumleft:

dread · Apr 19, 2010

cut and paste the whole link put in the address bar
worked for me

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

NHBandit said:
Stan your link dosn't work and doing an Ebay search for a seller with the username "divewrecks" turns up a guy who has a feedback rating of 9, burned a couple of people back in 07, and hasn't been heard from since. You might want to fix your link..

It is an asterisk just before and after the letters in the name. Not my first choice, but.....

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

Pirate coin? It looks like a burnt cookie....
http://cgi.ebay.com/pirate-8-reales-silver-cob-shipwreck-treasure-coin_W0QQitemZ230463982638

Uncleaned coins - unknown shipwreck - probably the Maravillas? Looks like a pile of rust flakes.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/uncleaned-reales-silver-cob-shipwreck-treasure-coin_W0QQitemZ230463980502

Cool shape, but can't tell much more....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1715-fleet-8-reales-silver-cob-shipwreck-treasure-coin_W0QQitemZ230463974775

Certainly not an Atocha coin style cross....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Spanish-Atocha-silver-coin-money-clip-includes-COA_W0QQitemZ330425342140

"Quarter is shown for size comparison only and is not included in the auction"...Damn!...Deal breaker!....
http://cgi.ebay.com/CONSOLACION-SPANISH-SHIPWRECK-1679-POTOSI-8-REALES-COB_W0QQitemZ280495026599

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

dread said:
i did not look at the dates sorry Stan its not a reproduction thing (second seller gets coin from first seller on 7th april check feedback first seller, second seller is same one selling it now) first seller thinks its from Rooswijk no cert, second seller has same coin with case and cert from Flying Hart very odd

Auction is now terminated. I will put this seller on my "watch" list: raymarcompany99

Stan

TheTreasureAddict · Apr 19, 2010

Stan,

Your making a bit nervous. I just bought this off coin off of the RAYMAR guy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220582073496&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

and bidding on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220591698288&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Have I gotten screwed here?

Thanks,

CB

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

CRACKBADGER said:
Have I gotten screwed here?

I think you did good price wise on the X69X 1/2 reale. Good to see some of the date, the cross, and have a Fisher cert, whether original to that coin or not. Obviously someone drew the coin outline on the cert, but it is just as common to find a blank cert. I remember someone selling about 15 blank 1715 Fisher certs on Ebay once. I think they went for over $100.

I'll say that the 8 reale coin is less typical in shape than most 1715 fleet coins, which tend to be less round with edges sheared off at different angles and also signs of hammering, either in faceting edges or in knocking down points on the periphery. I highly recommend Alan Craig's book "Spanish Colonial Coins in the Florida Collection". If you look at all the examples of the 1715 Fleet Mexican coins you will the characteristics I am talking about. If you can get some bigger pictures that would be nice. How a coin dealer can sell with postage stamp sized coins is beyond me. I'll be glad to research it further. Remember, that you can always retract your bid if you like if you have a good reason (like, your pictures suck!).

I got a Mexican eight on Ebay now for half that if you gotta have one.

.....or, I will help you find a good one representative of the 1715 Fleet.

Stan

If you

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

DiveWrecks said:
CRACKBADGER said:

Have I gotten screwed here?

Click to expand...

I think you did good price wise on the X69X 1/2 reale. Good to see some of the date, the cross, and have a Fisher cert, whether original to that coin or not. Obviously someone drew the coin outline on the cert, but it is just as common to find a blank cert. I remember someone selling about 15 blank 1715 Fisher certs on Ebay once. I think they went for over $100.

I'll say that the 8 reale coin is less typical in shape than most 1715 fleet coins, which tend to be less round with edges sheared off at different angles and also signs of hammering, either in faceting edges or in knocking down points on the periphery. I highly recommend Alan Craig's book "Spanish Colonial Coins in the Florida Collection". If you look at all the examples of the 1715 Fleet Mexican coins you will the characteristics I am talking about. If you can get some bigger pictures that would be nice. How a coin dealer can sell with postage stamp sized coins is beyond me. I'll be glad to research it further. Remember, that you can always retract your bid if you like if you have a good reason (like, your pictures suck!).

I got a Mexican eight on Ebay now for half that if you gotta have one. .....or, I will help you find a good one representative of the 1715 Fleet.

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

CRACKBADGER said:
Have I gotten screwed here?

I think you did good price wise on the X69X 1/2 reale. Good to see some of the date, the cross, and have a Fisher cert, whether original to that coin or not. Obviously someone drew the coin outline on the cert, but it is just as common to find a blank cert. I remember someone selling about 15 blank 1715 Fisher certs on Ebay once. I think they went for over $100.

I'll say that the 8 reale coin is less typical in shape than most 1715 fleet coins, which tend to be less round with edges sheared off at different angles and also signs of hammering, either in faceting edges or in knocking down points on the periphery. I highly recommend Alan Craig's book "Spanish Colonial Coins in the Florida Collection". If you look at all the examples of the 1715 Fleet Mexican coins you will the characteristics I am talking about. If you can get some bigger pictures that would be nice. How a coin dealer can sell with postage stamp sized coins is beyond me. I'll be glad to research it further. Remember, that you can always retract your bid if you like if you have a good reason (like, your pictures suck!).

I got a Mexican eight on Ebay now for half that if you gotta have one.

.....or, I will help you find a good one representative of the 1715 Fleet.

Stan

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Nice Coin

whats a spanish cob worth?

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