Early Tayopa newspaper story

Hello to The Orish man with the big gun.

So what was the revenge you got back on ya acquaintance the shifty beach comber sounds like some one I know.:icon_scratch:

Mick..

I am knackered.. it has been very hot today and missed my afternoon grandpa nap....But I still have enough steam for that yarn so crack a cold one for me.. You perhaps already heard this yarn up in your part of the world?

They say dame Fortune is a hard mistress to please?


I first heard it when drilling many years ago near Brocks Creek. There is few mines there and mining leases. I was working for a mining contractor that did exploration drilling. prices of gold was falling at the time but companies that owned mining leases to keep them they needed to do some form of mining activity. it was cheaper to get a drilling contractor to drill some holes and a young geologist fresh out uni to oversee the project. Everything was done on the cheap. As there was a lot of drilling contractors competing for any work at the time. it was in the days we lived along side our rigs in make shift camp in scrub in Swags. Did the Aussie salute swapping flies off.

No portable Dongas back then just camping under the stars. one of hands a bushie from why back. You know the type that talks out the side of his mouth with out the lips moving so not to let the flies in, rolling a rollie with drum tobacco in one hand with the ease of a Indian tobacco roller. This old bushie told us story one might as we sat around the campfire as he licked his cigarette paper. These yarns was always good and on this occasion we heard one that allegedly happened near where we many years ago that happened many years previously.

The old Bushie mentioned every time he thinks about the revival of gold-mining in the Brock's Creek district (Northern Territory), He calls an unusual story of a lost fortune in gold that his father told him.

The first men to find gold at Brock's creek, were four of the Territory's pioneer miners, Henry Roberts, Fred Starke, Harry Houschildt, and John Noltenius, who struck a rich reef in June, 1880. Within a week the reef yielded them nearly 800oz. of gold, worth in those days a fortune. The men, who had spent a long period in the bush, then decided to return to Darwin for a spell. The gold was careful placed in the saddle-pack of their most trusty horse, and, tethered the animal to a tree a few yards from the camp, the men began to prepare for the long journey to Darwin. When all was ready they decided to celebrate their fantastic success by finishing off their liquor supply.

As they drank they sang and cheered, and the unusual noise apparently frightened the horse with the gold, for during the celebrations it reared up, snapped its bridle, and galloped madly away! Neither the horse nor the gold was ever seen again. For several weeks the men combed a vast area of country, without getting even a glimpse of the missing animal. Some of the Territory's "old timers" say that the gold has never been found, but others declare that not long after the horse had disappeared a man, suspected of having found the gal loping fortune, turned up in Darwin, and. after selling some sold, left on the first ship for the South. But the fact remains their is only speculation what happened to the gold.

We speculated how far would horse travel before it perished as the area had limited amount of water holes. Perhaps some where out in the scrub is a skeleton of a horse with Rotten pack saddle full of gold?

As for the four prospectors their fate went from bad to worse they got claim jumped while they were searching for the horse and they were some of the miners who were massacred near Arthur River a year or two later.

And that my friends why Dame Fortune can some times be a cruel *****.

Crow
Hi Crow , Don Jose and Oroblanco . I do know of this " Dead Horse Treasure " and have done some cursory study , more speculation and dreaming than serious investigation . As you know even today this area of the territory is remote , vast and wild , as you suggested one of 2 scenario's the horse ran until exhaustion and thirst took its toll and the animal collapsed or the horse was found or wandered into some extremely lucky prospectors camp .
I believe the first because this area was at that time rough and isolated country , probably not too many miners there at that time and 1880 was an extremely dry year .
I have done some detecting on a friends Exploration lease "The Margaret Diggings " in 1880 an extremely rich alluvial field ,This is several miles Sth of Brocks Creek , i always check the creeks and valleys on the look-out for bones you never know this Gold could be anywhere But its Big country .
Anyways guys good luck with your Ventures/Adventures , hope the big one is in your sights .. cheers Mick
 

Hello mick

Don Jose and Oroblanco.

The Margaret Diggings was discovered by Mr JB Tennant in 1880 on his fourth visit to the area. (NT Times & Gazette). The area was know for its numerous large nuggets which included a Gold/Qtz specimen that contained 700 ozs of gold. A 500 oz nugget was also found. The area was worked mainly by Chinese diggers. The source of the big nuggets has never been discovered. A small 1.5 oz/ton reef was found by the Chinese on the side of a ridge near the bottom end of the diggings and was worked by the chinese from several shafts.The first detector operator to visit the area in 1980 found 87 ounces of nuggets in a week.


Your Minelab GPX 4000 must of more than earned its keep around there. Especially if you can find the source of those nuggets?

Cheers

Crow
 

K Mick, now post abut your "Margaret Diggings' activities story. Didja get much ? Bury the pore horse after finding it on Google Earth?

Got yer tin handy? Coffee is ready.

Don Jose de La Mancha
Hi Don Jose , had my fill of coffee this morning . The Margaret Diggings were discovered in 1880 and were considered the richest alluvial Gold field in the Pine Creek region . At its peak 6-800 mainly chinese miners were working the creeks and ridges , some huge finds being made nuggets up to 400 ozs and specimens of 700 ozs , within one year the Gold pettered out and only a few remained the rest searching elsewhere . some lucky one's returned to China wealthy .
In the 1930's due to the depression the area was again panned and mined by a few who made a meagre living . the area now is under Pastoral and Exploration Lease , some also has been made a Territory Fossicking area where any one with a permit can detect and prospect/pan .
My old timer mate Dave has an Exploration Lease over quite a few acres ( he also has interests in several other leases near by ) . Dave has found quite a few specimens up to 3 ozs detecting with his GB2 . As for me no Gold as yet just the usual rusty tin and artifacts and some 18TH century Chinese coins which are found on every Goldfield the Chinese worked .
I'm not giving up on the Gold , will be back there again with the GPX and maybe with some better luck .. cheers Mick
 

Hello mick

Don Jose and Oroblanco.

The Margaret Diggings was discovered by Mr JB Tennant in 1880 on his fourth visit to the area. (NT Times & Gazette). The area was know for its numerous large nuggets which included a Gold/Qtz specimen that contained 700 ozs of gold. A 500 oz nugget was also found. The area was worked mainly by Chinese diggers. The source of the big nuggets has never been discovered. A small 1.5 oz/ton reef was found by the Chinese on the side of a ridge near the bottom end of the diggings and was worked by the chinese from several shafts.The first detector operator to visit the area in 1980 found 87 ounces of nuggets in a week.


Your Minelab GPX 4000 must of more than earned its keep around there. Especially if you can find the source of those nuggets?

Cheers

Crow
My old timer mate Dave has pegged a Mining Lease over a Manganese/Laterite outcrop he is convinced is covering the source of the shedded alluvial Gold , but recently thru his panning activites now believes there is at least a second source . The specimens Dave has found contain 30% Gold . Thanks for the info Crow , seems we were typing in synch .:happysmiley: .. cheers Mick
 

El Tropical Tramp wrote
Oro, well it WAS a S&W mod 28 .357, true, but there are larger ones near the Little big Horn.

Little Bighorn - aha! You are giving away your true ID amigo, or should I say Ambrose?
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"Other cite rumors that Bierce, notwithstanding that he would be over 160 years old, is still wandering about the Sierra Madres."
Cheyenne-Deadwood Stage
Note that our amigo Real de Tayopa lists his age as (164) and that statement about Bierce being 160 was written several years ago.

Now which "gun" was really what got you famous amigo, was it a 357 or something else? I seem to recall a bit of training in the military, "this is my rifle, this is my gun, this one is for shooting, this one is for fun"? :laughing7:

Please do continue amigos! :icon_thumleft:
Roy
 

Where did you find my picture?? As for the military, remember I was in flight officer training, nothing crude, sides I don't really understand what you lil rhyme is alluding to ?????

Oh, oh!! yes, now I remember from my swabby days, "Three old maids from German town got drunk on cherry wine and started to sing "Rolly Polly ===" :occasion14: Blushing violently.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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Hello All

Come to think about it...hmm perhaps Oro is onto some thing?

Wow Oro that is name pulled out of hat. His fate has always amazed and intrigued me. There was many stories about his fate. one I heard that Vila had him put up against a wall and shot among others. but his fate was never clear just Rumors.

Perhaps our friend is Ambrose El Zorro of Sonora?

Crow
 

El zenor Crow, speaking of el Zorro, en garde -- :occasion14:, These are good, those pointy things tend to hurt.

Told kanacker that you had given me a cooks tour complete with photos of OUR DrumBeat, and as soon as we have solved the riddle of the lost city "Z" we are going to buy it before he puts it on some remote, unknown reef..

I also mentioned that you have refused to tell me which German was his downfall ! sniff.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s.. I noticed that it was significant in that you have never posted or sent to me a picture of the sail crew, especially in their hula outfits.??
 

Hello Amigo don Jose

I am not sure I should send you a picture of them as I could be forever wiping the steam off the binoculars when my crew was up in the rigging.:laughing7:

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Crow
 

Hello again Don Jose.

Better for some one else owns her my Friend. The Drum beat is like all tall ships labor intensive and expensive to run. The Drumbeat is like having a fancy mistress on the side. Money goes in nothing comes out. They really are a labour of love.

So we better recover more treasure than just the treasure of the Lost city of Z.

Crow
 

Hello Don Jose

If I had to decide which was the Money tree. I'd pick Tayopa every time my friend.:icon_thumright:

Crow
 

Don Jose you being the owner of miners rights. You must be interested in seeing how the other Tayopa mining areas goes with the deal with mining company's. One tip my friend do not accept a grandfather clause in any deal.

Lang Hancock got all the miners rights with out the grandfather clause in his contract to mining Iron ore in Western Australia in the 1960's. Now his daughter personal fortune is worth 29 Billion. Their family are for the next few generations with wealthy as kings.

Crow
 

Hello El Crow

Here I am working my but off searching through archives and here you truly a tropical tramp are loafing as usual.:dontknow:

And Cruising the Pacific on the "love Tub" My Boss said you can't hire good help these days.:laughing7: I heard about your accidental indiscretion so leave those poor young women alone???:laughing7:

Have you heard from the general as yet? I have done nearly all I can do for now.

Anyway good to see you having fun.

Corp
 

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