Early 1800's pocket spill at Nova site, NJ copper!

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Got out for 2 hours this morning back to the site where I found the 1783 Nova. Barrel rolled some more weeds for the first hour where I found the Nova, absolutely nothing but shotgun shell ends and square nails. Decided to hit the "backyard" area and plow some more rows of weeds and bang, bang, bang three LC's in a row.

First hit (they all sounded like wheats). One side has tons of detail, I see the shield and Latin but don't recognize, so send pic to Steve for ID. (This has become the official procedure...) Steve responds that it is a NJ State Copper, no way, my first state copper. 2 more feet of barrel rolling then another hit. This time I recognize it's a Large Cent, but send pic to the expert for ID. Its an 1810 Classic Head, my oldest LC ever. Fill the hole then 10 seconds later another. This guy is slightly smaller, thinner and not really round, 26mm one direction 27mm the other. Toastiest one unfortunately. If anyone can ID, let me know or even hypothetical ID possibilities.

Here is the handful of non coin keepers from the last few hunts . First non crotal style bell for me sort of psyched. Also first chunky brass wedding ring. Love to see this in the hole.

Here are the coins at the Nova site for today.

Here are the 1800's or earlier coins found this Fall at this site.

And a strange rock/metal/alien bit popped out at the end of this morning's hunt. Hope it's not radioactive...

Good luck out there!!

 

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[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Great hunt you've had once again, Congrats on the mitt full of coppers!
Barrel rolling, now that's different. I've used a sheet of plywood before, kind of awkward but sure makes for smooth swinging.

Thx Pepperj! My shop made a plywood barrel with internal bracing for something else, but I saw the possibilities...

 

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[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Way to clear a path for swinging , sometimes it pay's off

Thx! Sometimes barreling pays off sometimes it's just a lot of effort for shotgun shell ends... my first venture to this site was a small wooded area adjacent, found (2) 1800's coins there, so figured it was worth the effort to work my way into the actual "dot" from the old treasure map

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Awesome old coin shooting, congratulations!

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

That shield looks like an error. PM Tnet member Don in SJ for a proper ID. He also records NJ copper finds (based on County). GREAT FIND!

Oh also, the copper planchets used for classic head cents were pretty crappy - lots of impurities and a bit soft. Not too many are dug in decent shape so their condition is right on-par. The unknown is probably the like

Thx Scrappy! I appreciate the advice and insight.

 

[scruggs]

What a spectacular hunt you had! Congratulations!

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Thad you had a pretty good Thanksgiving weekend. It's not very often that someone digs a Nova and a NJ on the same weekend, in fact I would bet it's never been done. Maybe next time you dig a strange copper I'll be there with you and can give you the ID right on the spot

Thx Steve! I believe there are plenty more good targets at this site, sounds fun!

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Wow! That's what we all dream about in this hobby. Copper after copper after copper.... Just keep them coming. I'm thinking I see the KGIII bust on your mystery copper. Awesome day. Congrats!

Thx Evolution! What year KG would fall in the 26-27mm copper? Never dug a KG. The really big slick coin is 35-36mm, thought this could be one as well. (One of the challenges of digging old coppers is the occasional unidentifiable coin...)

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

My latest guess in the mystery copper is a 1729-1754 KG II Farthing, 25mm. There is definitely a bust of some sort protruding slightly from the slickness, mainly my guess is based on the size match and range of coins at this site.

 

[Scrappy]

My latest guess in the mystery copper is a 1729-1754 KG II Farthing, 25mm.View attachment 1521039View attachment 1521040 There is definitely a bust of some sort protruding slightly from the slickness, mainly my guess is based on the size match and range of coins at this site.

I see a right face. If I’m trying to ID a copper as a British coin, I always look for the Chariot wheel on the Britannia side first. It’s the most notable feature

 

[Steve in PA]

My latest guess in the mystery copper is a 1729-1754 KG II Farthing, 25mm.View attachment 1521039View attachment 1521040 There is definitely a bust of some sort protruding slightly from the slickness, mainly my guess is based on the size match and range of coins at this site.

Thad, I don't think that is a Farthing. Looks too large in comparison to the Large Cent in your pic. In this picture, the three coins in the second row down on the right are farthings. Compare them to the three large cents below them. The other coins in that row are half cents and Virginia copper. Next time I see you, bring it with you.

 

[Evolution]

It's remotely possible that you have a William III there too. The would make it late 1600s up to 1701 i believe. I'm just spitballing though. I really can't see enough to ID it.

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

I see a right face. If I’m trying to ID a copper as a British coin, I always look for the Chariot wheel on the Britannia side first. It’s the most notable feature

The backside is slicker than slick unfortunately. I wish there was an easy reference guide based on dia and weight, at least this would narrow down badly worn coppers. The old British coins (and Irish versions) is a whole new level of expertise that I lack.

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Thad, I don't think that is a Farthing. Looks too large in comparison to the Large Cent in your pic. In this picture, the three coins in the second row down on the right are farthings. Compare them to the three large cents below them. The other coins in that row are half cents and Virginia copper. Next time I see you, bring it with you.

Your Farthings are definitely much smaller than the LC's. My mystery coin is 2.5mm smaller than a LC. I'll bring it to our next hunt.

 

[RustyGold]

Congratulations on a great hunt and reclaiming some awesome history. Best of luck!

 

[Steve in PA]

Your Farthings are definitely much smaller than the LC's. My mystery coin is 2.5mm smaller than a LC. I'll bring it to our next hunt.

Thad, You might want to consider a Virginia Halfpenny. They circulated with the Nova's and various State coppers. I have found 5 or 6 of them in SW PA https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/VA-halfd.1.html

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Thad, You might want to consider a Virginia Halfpenny. They circulated with the Nova's and various State coppers. I have found 5 or 6 of them in SW PA https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/VA-halfd.1.html

Here is a rubbing, look familiar to anyone, 25-26 mm?

 

[Kurios1]

That sight has been very good to you. Excellent hunting mate.