Display Of British BlockHouse Finds

[Derek752]

Its 0231 am and I'm kinda bored...So here is a "Best" of finds from our 2004 dig of a virgin site discovered through hours upon hours of research,hiking,and a bit of good luck !
Knew about where to look and finding tell-tale signs and clues and the sheer luck of digging a british copper which led to the discovery of the fireplace !

Spent 2 solid months excavating the fireplace ( about 4.5 feet deep and about 10'x10' feet wide ) and sifting the dirt and ashes.
It was an amazing discovery and we were like kids in a candy store ! Never knowing what was going to turn up next !

What is in the display is the best that I found and is a mere drop in the bucket of total finds.

In the display are a metalic and non metalic finds such as baby teeth,a cootie comb,flints,and trade beads and wampum along with spanish silver,musket parts,trade silver,British coppers ( oldest is King Willaim & Mary 1697 ),cuff links,buckles,jews harps, Jesuit trade rings,crucifixs,and even a lead pencil !

Second photo is of some of the iron ( iron relics dug in between the 10,000 square nails ) my favorite being the flintlock mechinism !

Third & forth photo is a Duke of Cumberland battle of Fonteney victory medal
Fifth photo is the 4 reale cobb I dug. ( 1749 )

And finally the last photo is the sheet silver crucifix my partner Rock dug..It is a beautiful piece and has very attractive ornat etchings ! To this day I fell it is his best find ever !

The only bad thing about finding such a site is eventually the finds end and your left wishing someday you'll discover another site like it !!

HH everyone and Happy Holidays !!

D.

 

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[birdman]

Wonderful post and extreamly high adventure at the site! That is the stuff I dream about!!

 

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[robfinds]

Great finds, But why do you say British instead of early Americans, do all Americans suffer from amnesia ?.

Robert from England.

 

[Mrs Bloom]

Wow! Wonderful story! I would give anything to *discover* a site like that!

 

[Derek752]

FollowUp Photos Of Coppers And Some Other Relics

A few more photos of coppas and spanish silver ...trade ring and mortar / cannonball dug in and around the fortsite

 

[Evolution]

You got alot of nice coppas there.

 

[Derek752]

Great finds, But why do you say British instead of early Americans, do all Americans suffer from amnesia ?.

Robert from England.

Hello Robert..I agree 100% and I dont suffer from amnesia just an occasional brainfart or STM but I know the whys and reasons ..
Patriots (also known as Americans, Whigs, Congress-Men or Rebels) was the name the colonists of the British Thirteen Colonies who rebelled against British control during the American Revolution called themselves. It was their leading figures who, in July 1776, declared the United States of America an independent nation. Their rebellion was based on the political philosophy of republicanism, as expressed by pamphleteers such as Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, and Thomas Paine.

As a group, Patriots comprised men and women representing the full array of social, economic, ethnic and racial backgrounds. They included college students like Alexander Hamilton, planters like Thomas Jefferson, and plain farmers like Daniel Shays and Joseph Plumb Martin.

Those colonists who remained loyal to the British Crown called themselves Loyalists or "Tories".

In addition, many people remained neutral or said nothing.

Many Patriots were active before 1775 in groups such as the Sons of Liberty. The most prominent leaders of the Patriots are referred to today by Americans as the Founding Fathers of the United States.

 

[dneyedli@res1.mts.net]

Derek,
Could be the camera or does that trade ring have red stones on the sides of the big green one? Interesting if it did since they are usually green, blue, or clear. Great early coppers!
Dave.

 

[Derek752]

Derek,
Could be the camera or does that trade ring have red stones on the sides of the big green one? Interesting if it did since they are usually green, blue, or clear. Great early coppers!
Dave.

Hey Dave ...

Big green in the middle and tiny reds on both sides..( my camera is old and gets picky sometimes ) the ring is pretty small, I think it could only fit a childs pinky.
Never detected it..found it when it fell out of the dirt scraped from the fireplace.

 

[EDDE]

I keep coming back ,great explanations and/of site recovery examples 8) SOLID!!!!

 

[Derek752]

Re: Display Of British BlockHouse Finds ( More photots )

Close up of trade beads

 

[trashdude]

Just once, I'd love to dig in to something like this. WTG Derek.

 

[robfinds]

Great finds, But why do you say British instead of early Americans, do all Americans suffer from amnesia ?.

Robert from England.

Hello Robert..I agree 100% and I dont suffer from amnesia just an occasional brainfart or STM but I know the whys and reasons ..
Patriots (also known as Americans, Whigs, Congress-Men or Rebels) was the name the colonists of the British Thirteen Colonies who rebelled against British control during the American Revolution called themselves. It was their leading figures who, in July 1776, declared the United States of America an independent nation. Their rebellion was based on the political philosophy of republicanism, as expressed by pamphleteers such as Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, and Thomas Paine.

As a group, Patriots comprised men and women representing the full array of social, economic, ethnic and racial backgrounds. They included college students like Alexander Hamilton, planters like Thomas Jefferson, and plain farmers like Daniel Shays and Joseph Plumb Martin.

Those colonists who remained loyal to the British Crown called themselves Loyalists or "Tories".

In addition, many people remained neutral or said nothing.

Many Patriots were active before 1775 in groups such as the Sons of Liberty. The most prominent leaders of the Patriots are referred to today by Americans as the Founding Fathers of the United States.

Hello Derek, Thanks for the reply, It's just that I think when People worldwide now talk of the British they always think of its ruling classes. No credit is given to the normal hard working Brits that helped to build nations often over comming massive odds in the process. It's a great shame that Britain is always remembered for the actions of it's ruling classes and not it's people. Will America go the same way ?.

 

[dgaughan]

wow derek that is an awesome spot you guys had there congrats and hh

 

[Derek752]

[/quote] Hello Derek, Thanks for the reply, It's just that I think when People worldwide now talk of the British they always think of its ruling classes. No credit is given to the normal hard working Brits that helped to build nations often over comming massive odds in the process. It's a great shame that Britain is always remembered for the actions of it's ruling classes and not it's people. Will America go the same way ?.
[/quote]
Well Robert do a thousand good deeds but just one wrong-doing and you are condemed.
What I've read imposed taxes,like the tea tax, were so small it would have amounted to less the $2 per person a year.
And America was'nt really a concept untill the late 1760's after the F&I war. I find it all fascinating ! I love digging the relics and such but I find the history just as exciting and I spend hours & hours reading first hand accounts of "colonials" and their hardships.

We discovered this site,which first were 2 British blockhouses long before the F&I war, and the fort built at request from the Iroquios to William Johnson.I admire him in the fact that he was revered by the indians and was acceoted as a brother.
And thanks to his meticulous record keeping he wrote one small paragraph that led us to finding the spot!

I appreciate your replies !

Merry Christmas to you and family !!!

D.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

Very nice finds and work on the recovery.. It sounds like the same little spot i found one time close to me .. But yours was much better.. I like the part about the trenches, i had to do the same thing ,sometimes the targets are deeper then the machines will go.. Did you use a sifter for the beads or just see them..I have found a few but nothing like that.. Later/ relicdude

 

[Derek752]

Very nice finds and work on the recovery.. It sounds like the same little spot i found one time close to me .. But yours was much better.. I like the part about the trenches, i had to do the same thing ,sometimes the targets are deeper then the machines will go.. Did you use a sifter for the beads or just see them..I have found a few but nothing like that.. Later/ relicdude

Hey RelicDude...
This site taught us alot. It'll always be a mystery why finds were 2 feet deep ,and others on the surface, How the fireplace turned out so many finds.
It was farmland / pasture for about 175 years after the fact and my conclusions are that the farmer altered things just enough but once we knew what we had visible clues were everywhere ( sometimes cant see the forest for the trees ) like earthworks and heck even the original river road came to the site and then wound down the hill eastward. and in early spring you can see the wagon wheel ruts.

When we learned there were trade beads in the dirt we brought kitty litter buckets, fine mesh spaghetti strainers,filled the buckets,hauled them to the river,found a nice comfy rock to sit on, and a hand full at a time washed the dirt away in the strainers and picked out the beads occasionally having to grab everything and run our butts up the hill whenever a yacht going full out 30 knots would blast up river

Maybe you could try that method...

Happy Holidays !

D.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

Thanks Derek..I will try that at one of my best and only spots i have found the beads.I would just dig test holes. And search the piles and hole with my detector, the color of the beads would catch my eye. Thank you for the info ,and goodluck at the site... With all the beads it almost looks like a trade post??

 

[Colonial Zoyboy]

Derek, I am still amazed at the recoveries made at this truly virgin site. For about a week, I have been changing back and forth between backgrounds, but I always seem to come back to your picture of the finds. Yes, I currently have it as my background picture.

Keep up the fever high, man.

Bone Dry Detecting...zoyster

 

[Derek752]

Derek, I am still amazed at the recoveries made at this truly virgin site. For about a week, I have been changing back and forth between backgrounds, but I always seem to come back to your picture of the finds. Yes, I currently have it as my background picture.

Keep up the fever high, man.

Bone Dry Detecting...zoyster

Thanks Zoy...Glad you like the find photos....

I will add more when I get home ( out working delievering to the good boys & girls at walmarts ) I have the majority of the finds from the site stored in a nut,screw,bolt container type thing with drawers

 

[jridg]

Amazing finds! Do you mind telling us what state you found this all in? It's truly incredible! I have begun doing a small amount of research trying to find sites like this around here - not sure if I will succeed, but it's amazing all the same.....