Did we find something?

[junglejim]

Found a large "pile of rocks" mound, about 30 to 40' long, maybe 18 or so wide at bottom about 7' tall. Obviously man made. In a remote mountainous area. The area appears to have possibly been an early Spanish mining area. Didn't notice at first but later I noticed while standing back from the mound about 20 feet away on one side of the mound I notuced 7 areas that had different colored rocks in areas that made me think of "windows". Like they were rock made "windows" in the mound. On another trip to the area we probed ome of the "window" sections (carefully) and after several hours we found a map that was sandwiched between 2 rock or metallic disks. The map was extremely fragile. We took several cell phone pictures and very soon afterwards the map disentigrated. After much study of the map we found the location the map was indicating which is about 2 miles NNE of the rock mound. Upon reaching this area we found a natural cave entrance with Spanish symbols and markings on the rock face just outside the cave entrance. We also realized tha it appeared the cave was a den for a mountain lion. We have not yet made any attempts to enter the cave yet but hope to soon. We are very curious about the rock mound and it's overall meaning. We have not yet attempted to probe the other 6 "windows".

I just posted a photo of a rock from the mound, does have bit of gold in it.

Added better view of the distinct areas in the mound that I call "windows".

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Its Beekrock.

How do you know that?? Ain't no rocks in Florida, only cocina.

True. We have no rocks other than coral rock. Beekrock was a TN member who spun a great tale that captivated readers for months, if not years. This had some interesting beginnings, like the infamous Beekrock legend, but its fizzling away very quickly. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=48966.0

 

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[EagleDown]

Its Beekrock.

How do you know that?? Ain't no rocks in Florida, only cocina.

True. We have no rocks other than coral rock. Beekrock was a TN member who spun a great tale that captivated readers for months, if not years. This had all the beginnings of the infamous Beekrock legend but its fizzling away very quickly. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=48966.0

Ahhh. I didn't see that thread. Sorry, I wasn't putting you down, just making a joke. I was born in FL but came to CA for the gold. Man, there's a lotta rocks here!!

Incidently, (and this one you could probably check out,) I don't disbelieve "treasure stories" right off of the bat. So many of them turn out, perhaps years later, to be true.

In the early to mid 1970's, I had heard of a cache of gold coins in Palmetto FL. (Across the Manatee river from Bradenton,) and I thought it was probably BS.

But, a story came out in the Bradenton Herald about a pending law-suit over a cache of gold coins found in the yard of a private residence in Palmetto. It seems that a person bought an older house and while working in the yard of his new home, he noticed a depression in the ground. He was inclined to fill it in, but just in case it was an old cistern or something of that nature, he decided to dig down a ways to make sure there was nothing to cause it to cave in later.

Well, to make a good, long story short, he struck something with his shovel, and after uncovering it, found (I seem to remember,) a wooden box containing an undisclosed amount of gold coins.

The upshot of this was, he ran his mouth to to many people and the person who sold the house to him was taking him to court saying that since he (the seller) had owned the house for many years, that the coins were legally his. Of course, the coins were "impounded" pending the outcome of the legal wrangling. Unfortunately, I left for CA shortly after this and never did hear what the outcome was.

I was rooting for the finder.

But, as has been stated in other threads in the forum, if you find ANYTHING OF VALUE, keep the old mouth shut. There's always someone out there who would like to take it from you. And they might even be a trusted friend. They didn't name it "Gold Fever" for nothing.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

My uncle had a horde of gold coins. He died suddenly and nobody knows where he hid them. It happens.

 

[flip flop]

I just wanna see the mountain lion!!

 

[traderoftreasures]

earth to junglejim.... are you still with us? come in junglelim... do you read me?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

He registered Jun 12 and the last time he logged in was Jun 18.

 

[OldNBroken]

Bah, did you scare off the entertainment?

 

[Shootncoin]

The mountain lion got him on the 19th -

 

[Breezie]

What is that thing in the 4th pic on his first post that looks like a 'brain in a bag?' Mmmm, I think I must have missed something. Was that pic there on his original post? Breezie

 

[snapper]

WOW, jealousy is contagious. BTW, i think that I just might do a flyover and check this place out more thoroughly. Mountain lions don't scare me too easy, so Ill keep all posted what I might find. One has to be very careful in this canyon, cuz its real close to Mex/US border...

 

[NGE]

first of all snapper, welcome to t-net, 2nd. of all is, if you can fly, go to the "everything else " forum and check out "our common dreams" .........NGE

 

[AU Seeker]

What is that thing in the 4th pic on his first post that looks like a 'brain in a bag?' Mmmm, I think I must have missed something. Was that pic there on his original post? Breezie

Breezie,

That is the rock with gold in it, yes it was there from the start.

Skip

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

WOW, jealousy is contagious. BTW, i think that I just might do a flyover and check this place out more thoroughly. Mountain lions don't scare me too easy, so Ill keep all posted what I might find. One has to be very careful in this canyon, cuz its real close to Mex/US border...

Thanks. Keep us posted.

I think most of us think the story is fantasy but it keeps our interest because of the slight possibility that it is true. Like someone said, " I've heard taller tales than this that I thought were BS, then later found out that they were true."

 

[PChammer]

I think most of us think the story is fantasy but it keeps our interest because of the slight possibility that it is true. Like someone said, " I've heard taller tales than this that I thought were BS, then later found out that they were true."

I agree, I have told a few myself that people didn't believe until they found out otherwise and the other way around as well, not to do with antiques or finds but yes, it does happen.

I read this through a few times and feel it's great if it is true but did have a question about the situation. One, the map, well, that's been covered but I would like to say that when I used to do carpentry work, we would tear out old walls and they had old newspaper used as insulation or between floor beams, etc... and that paper would disintegrate at touch, crumble into nothing like burnt paper ash from a fire. The "very small" pieces were still there of course, it didn't turn to dust or anything but depending what they meant my "disintegrated" would tell a lot.

On the flip side, as careful as the poster is about this situation, I don't understand why they would go through such lengths to hide the whereabouts and map pictures, yet post the site itself. Anyone with a bit of familiarity to the area shown, especially for such a find could definitely figure out where it's located. I guess if it was me, I wouldn't be posting such a site on the internet at all until I finished my find, especially if a treasure of sorts, but then, everyone is different. There also looks like a trail on the left side of the hill in the 3rd to last picture which would indicate it's been traveled a lot. Could be water run off too though.

Either way, it's definitely interesting

Paul

 

[EagleDown]

I wasn't going to bring up the "crumbling map" scenario, but, since it's here, I agree. I have found old claim markers while out prospecting, and opened old tobacco tins, (usually Prince Albert-PA,) in the hopes of determining the section coordinates, and of course, what the claim was for. Gold, silver, etc.

Some of them were so fragile, they crumbled before I could get them open. Oh well, back to the County Recorders office for more research.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The disintegrating map part didnt bother me. Its the part where it was sandwiched between 2 rock or metallic disks. Was it stuck to one side? The poster asked for help but didnt explain this part very well. It may be an important clue. Its hard to help with so many parts of the puzzle being withheld or missing.

Im sure its againt TN rules to tell someone they are fabricating a story. I think what was implied is that you were mistaken, junglejim. Either way, when you asked for help, you will get different opinions. There is no doubt in my mind that you found something. What it was before it disentegrated is anybody's guess. I am sorry that you stopped posting. We might be able to help more if you tell us more.

 

[PChammer]

Its the part where it was sandwiched between 2 rock or metallic disks.

You know, I have seen or heard of something similar to that I can't remember where though but I "not just saying this"perhaps history of ancient Egypt, arg. Either way, this is going to bother me until I remember.

 

[traderoftreasures]

first of all snapper, welcome to t-net, 2nd. of all is, if you can fly, go to the "everything else " forum and check out "our common dreams" .........NGE

lots going on over at "everything else" right now

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its the part where it was sandwiched between 2 rock or metallic disks.

You know, I have seen or heard of something similar to that I can't remember where though but I "not just saying this"perhaps history of ancient Egypt, arg. Either way, this is going to bother me until I remember.

There is a big difference between rocks and metallic discs. No mention of rust. A pic of these unknown sandwich materials would have given us something to search. Without any updates, we have gone about as far as we can go.

 

[Tuberale]

Much ado about old paper found sandwiched between "rock" and something.

Can't say whether this site could have had "paper" map. Unlike others, I find the "paper", uh, atypical. Early Spaniards didn't have
"paper" readily available. More likely parchment or animal skin.

Last week found buried at 4 inches a piece of aluminum foil inside a cellophane wrapper, with a piece of paper still sandwiched between the 2 with legible writing. Didn't last long. Looked like maybe part of a candy wrapper.

Over 100 years ago on the Oregon Coast, a scroll of something was found on Neahkahnie Mountain, and is one of the original sources of data on the so-called Neahkahnie Mountain Treasure. Writing was Spanish, and at the time, not a lot of Spanish speakers in the state. Scroll supposedly taken south (California?) to be translated, and the results were published in the fore-runner of the current publication Sunset Magazine known as West Shore. Scroll was found inside a hollow rock on top of a cairn: a stack of rocks. The stack of rocks was obviously meant for someone to notice them, but it had nothing to do with a mining claim.

Oregon Historical Society still has in their reference library documents referring to this publication, but the publication itself is no longer available: someone removed the 3 pages from their copy of West Shore, Vol. 7 (1881) still at OHS.

Ruby El Hult in "Lost Mines and Treasures of the Pacific Northwest" included this in her bibliography. But it's kind of hard to reference an alledged document that you can not longer "see" when you follow the paper trails. Her citation reads: "West Shore, Vol. 7 (1881), "Nehalem Valley"; Vol. 14 (1888) "Buried Treasure of Tillamook," by Bailey Avery. There is also this citation, which may be related: "Clipping, Oregon Historical Society scrapbook No. 118, p. 111, "An Important Discovery," dated Sept. 22, 1899." It's possible the original story was so requested that the curator, in an attempt to conserve the story for later people, cut it out of West Shore and put it into one of the 300 scrapbooks currently at the OHS's Reference Library.

Maybe I'm the only one who like citations, but they can be checked at the very least.