COMPASS GOLD SCANNER PRO

[Keppy]

there is now way your sov . will become your back up.... unless you depend on a meter machine ,,.... the gt is a super deep unit in the right hands ..... just my thought . pine out

But the Gold scanner is also a tone ID detector and very good at discriminating out iron....==Jim==

 

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[EasyMoney]

From my personal experience I would opt for a Relic & Coin or GoldScanner Pro with the 8" coil as my best overall weapon of choice of all detectors I have ever used, and if I were primarily coin hunting I would chose a CoinScanner Pro with a 3" coil and use an 8" or 6" as a backup. When using the 3 incher though, one will have to normally cut the sensitivity down to "6" or less in order to be able to ground balance the thing.

The 3" Compass coil is one SUPER HOT MAMA achieving from 1" less than an 8 or a 6 and in some cases the same depth as those two too. It is a very serious cherry-picker. It however DOES NOT find tiny nuggets any deeper than the 8" coil, and neither does the 6 incher. Recently I found a 1940 penny with the 3" and it was 1" between a piece of foil and a small nail, and had a piece of linear iron 6 inches underneath it too. I think that may not be in the realm of capabilities of the 6 or 8 coil. It's just asking too much.

Do not be surprized when you find objects made of brass, copper, or even bronze or silver (in discriminate) the size of a metal 1/8th inch paper thin sequin. In all-metal I have actually found iron things as tiny as 1/16th of an inch, and the Compasses will seperate two of them that size to as close as 1" apart in most cases.

EasyMoney

 

[JOE(USA)]

EasyMoney,

I'm off to a slow start field testing the Coin Scanner Pro. I was not too impressed with the air/bench tests.
When I got into the field however I was impressed with the depth. The separation abilities of the machine are really remarkable. In fact when I put the machine in tone ID I thought the detector was giving me a false signal because the two tones were so tight together. Slowed my sweep speed way down.
I'm taking it to a sand fresh water beach tonight which will tell me a lot more about the detector. Do you happen to know why they provided a choice between two or three tones? I can see the reasoning for tone off or tone on, but not for the choice of two or three? I don't think this detector has had any mods. Apparently yours has a GB control added and a depth enhancement? Joe

 

[EasyMoney]

Joe I added a GB control to my XP Pro, but I have not owned a CS Pro, however I have played with them before. I never did have to work on them because they never seemed to break down.

The two or 3 tone was a factory special order choice. Now of course you need to know that a Compass will go from 5 or 6 inches in air on a nickel to as much as 11" if you passs the coin in front of it real fast. In other words, (up to a certain point) Compasses will go deeper - the faster they are scanned.

As I said earlier, if you can't get around 10" or more in air scanning quickly, it needs to be sent to Keith for a tuneup.

And here is a test to try;

Place several pennies 3" apart in a row. Scan the detector quickly over them (inline) with them. You should be able to hear every one of them if you are swinging at a rate of 1-4 fps. No try that with a Tejon too. Both of them should handle that very well, then after that replace every other penny with a steel screw about 1" long. The Compass should cancel the screws in-between the sounding off of the pennies when scanning at a seriously fast rate, but the Tejon probably will not do it. If your Compass can't do it, it needs to have a tuneup.

Now even though the Tejon has a lot of trouble with it's high gain in high iron soils, it is probably the most superior of all detectors in finding the pennies even closer together in a straight line, as close as 2" apart. However, the Compass will outperform it when bad targets are placed in-between the good targets. In trash-filled soil though, yes, by all means, slow the scanning rate down. And no, not myself nor anybody else has enhanced the depth on my XP. They came out of the factory getting at least 10" in air on a nickel, and the GS Pro and R&C got another 3"-4" more than that.

Larry

 

[OzarkTom]

Hey EasyMoney, you ever used a Compass AU52? Back in the 70's, the Compass 77B killed everything. I dug Indian Head pennies down to 12 inches.

 

[EasyMoney]

Yes I've used an au52 and it is the one that found the documented recorded and displayed smallest nugget ever found with a metal detector. It was found inside a 4 1/2" chunk of large quartz and now hangs on display somewhere in one of the casinos in Nevada. The nugget is about the size of a large dot on an "i". It really surprised it's user.

If you can find a coin at 12" with a 77B then it has certainly been modified and your are hunting in soil that has no iron in it at all. In medium iron soil they could find a coin up to 3" and in weaker soil as deep as 4", but never any deeper than that. In the nasty stuff they could locate a penny only around 2 inches in all-metal - and then people used the "pull-away" method (AKA "reversed discrimination") to determine if the target might be worth retrieving - just like most detectors back then. In salt-free sand they could locate a penny at maybe 6" top if there was only silica sand there. It sounds like someone had increased the preamp gain and added a seperate return amplifier to it - inside the box. Still, those were a far cry short of George Payne's Red Baron made just after the 77B was in it's hay-day. When those came out the top air depth was around 8", and except for copper or brass that has been in the ground for decades there is no halo or deterioration causing the coin to break apart and make a larger pattern around it. I would like to have seen what has been changed there. If you had noticed anything that appeared to be added, please let me know so I can store that knowledge amongst my electronics notes. Even today the cz3d is one of the deepest detectors ever made but even it could never find a coin at 12" in disc, even in salt-free sand.

BTW, the cz3d with it's 10.5 coil actually beat the F-75, a Sovereign GT, an Explorer SE, a DFX, and a Garrett 2500 in some red clay soil (Virginia, if I remember correctly) for all-out depth locating iron relics and cw buttons. Dave Johnson was the operator (no surprize).

Have fun everybody.

EasyMoney

 

[dazoff]

EasyMoney
Have found your comments quite informative I'm on the west coast as well and use the GoldScanner Pro, CoinScanner Pro, 77B, you mention the Tejon which is about as close to the Troy X5 as they come and I hunt mostly with the Troy X5. The fact that its all weather capable and has a fast response, 19.3 kHz helps with low conductors and does seem to handle bad ground well makes for a giant killer machine. I do have the 3" coil on my Coin ScannerPro and like its ability to get close to fence lines mine has a one turn ground balance added. I often use the 6000 XL Pro as my cherry picker in trash areas maybe I should rethink that. I agree that the power can't be utilised on the naughty as I have one and need to be somewhere with better ground to take advantage of its power. I'm just getting into the Millennium Baron cointrax 11. Dan

 

[JOE(USA)]

EasyMoney,

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[kujayhawks]

WAnted MARK 1 TEKNETICS HIPMOUNT OR BETTER IF POSSIBLE VINTAGE BY GEORGE PAYNE

Badger..We will do the best we can for you. Like i told EasyMoney i have been selling off my detectors.No use haveing a stable of detectors all different makes and brands and they all do the same thing . And i hear that the Compass excells at discriminating out iron.........==Jim==

WANTED MARK 1 HIPMOUNT OR BETTER VINTAGE DETECTOR MADE BY GEORGE PAYNE.

 

[Slingshot]

I had a Mark I for about 6 months and ditched it to return to using my Teknetics 9000, which was a much better detector IMHO. Also tried out the Compass GS Pro, and didn't like it either, just too unstable, sold it for $100 just to get rid of it.

I don't think George Payne ever outdid his original 9000 detector with any other of his creations, and most have never used one, so don't know. Good luck with finding a Mark I.