Colombia will be smarter than Bahamas

A couple other things that are left out. The archies want to preserve the wrecks "in situ" and create underwater museums. Well, how can you visit a museum 750 feet deep? Its rediculous. The archies will say "with underwater cameras." OK, what about the unknown artifacts that could change history that are buried 4 feet deep? We can never see or study them unless they are excavated. The archies have no answer for this.
 

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The archaeologist keep saying to me that in-situ preservation is so that we can leave shipwrecks for future generations to excavate.

I say that we are that future generation and they have been left for us to excavate.

With at least one new sinking every day and thousands of un excavated wreck already on the seabed, the few we would excavate in our time would not even dent the cultural resource.

Luckily they are now starting to lose their legally battles, so hopefully in time archaeologist supported amateur and private sector historic wreck excavation will be the norm.

If you want to laugh (or cry) this is how museums carry out excavation and recovery of our heritage: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339428/Last-flight-Flying-Pencil-How-Dornier-bomber-recovered-sea-bed-Kent-coast-shot-Battle-Britain-forcing-crew-land-belly-sandbanks.html

Almost complete aircraft on the seabed (as you will see in the multi beam and side scan) that gets its fuselage ripped in half, half a wing snapped off, engines pulled out etc. when after spending 600k on a failed salvage plan they allowed the contractor just to strop it up instead of using a specialist lifting cradle as was originally planned.
 

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The archaeologist keep saying to me that in-situ preservation is so that we can leave shipwrecks for future generations to excavate.

I say that we are that future generation and they have been left for us to excavate.

With at least one new sinking every day and thousands of un excavated wreck already on the seabed, the few we would excavate in our time would not even dent the cultural resource.

Luckily they are now starting to lose their legally battles, so hopefully in time archaeologist supported amateur and private sector historic wreck excavation will be the norm.

If you want to laugh (or cry) this is how museums carry out excavation and recovery of our heritage: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339428/Last-flight-Flying-Pencil-How-Dornier-bomber-recovered-sea-bed-Kent-coast-shot-Battle-Britain-forcing-crew-land-belly-sandbanks.html

Almost complete aircraft on the seabed (as you will see in the multi beam and side scan) that gets its fuselage ripped in half, half a wing snapped off, engines pulled out etc. when after spending 600k on a failed salvage plan they allowed the contractor just to strop it up instead of using a specialist lifting cradle as was originally planned.
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............ ahhh, academics. :laughing7:
 

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I would love to see Alexandre's face when he's told the only jobs available are with the treasure hunters!
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He's got an impressive (coff) resume ............................
 

Future generation shipwreck salvage is for us, we can manage it if they leave things well enough alone.
 

Your a funny guy aquanaut; however, what you are saying is already coming true. In situ preservation is a misguided and misinformed policy that will continue to allow looters and time to rob us of our cultural heritage. This is a great example of how private enterprise (real archeologists) and academic archeologists can work together and uncover things about our past that we never knew. I welcome any skeptical archeologist to come on my research vessel and see how much I care about every artifact not just the gold and silver.

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More good news for private shipwreck recovery:

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JEFFERSON, Texas, July 1, 2013 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Innocap, Inc. (or "Innocap") (OTCBB:INNO) (OTCQB:INNO) has received an agreement with a company based in the Republic of the Philippines under which Innocap agrees to organize, plan and supervise then will begin recovery efforts of a shipwreck located off the coast of the Philippines. The ship, based on preliminary studies, appears to contain a cargo of Chinese porcelain made during the Ming Dynasty. Efforts will be made by Innocap to further identify and evaluate the best method of recovery, which includes conservation and archeological study of the pieces when made available. Under the agreement, the Philippine company is responsible for obtaining all necessary Government and other approvals, permits and licenses. The preliminary recovery efforts will begin when all required permits and licenses are obtained.

Under the terms of the agreement, Innocap will be entitled to 50% of any cargo that is recovered from the salvage. Although many ships from the Ming Dynasty era contained cargoes worth millions of dollars by today's standards, there is no way at this time to estimate the value of the cargo on this sunken ship.

It is the intention of Innocap, Inc. to recover, treat and conserve the artifacts reclaimed. The Company plans to create exhibitions and make the artifacts available to the general public. Innocap will create a video of the recovery and provide the video on our website, Innocap, Inc.. Innocap will ultimately have to obtain funds to finance this project.

Paul Tidwell, President of Innocap, said, "We are very excited to get started on this project which has a great deal of historic as well as financial potential. We are working with groups in this part of the world and hope to be starting similar projects soon." Mr. Tidwell has extensive experience in finding and salvaging sunken ships. Some of his activities have been filmed and shown on networks like the NBC, National Geographic Channel, and NHK Television in Japan.

His discovery of the sunken Japanese submarine I-52 is perhaps his most notable and historically significant achievement to date. Found at a depth of 17,500 feet, the I-52 is one of the deepest shipwrecks ever discovered, and it is of great national and cultural importance to Japan.

About Innocap, Inc.

Innocap, Inc. (INNO) is a marine exploration company specializing in research and development of ocean recovery projects. The Company's research has shown there are many shipwrecks around the world which contain valuable cargo. Innocap, Inc. will treat all shipwrecks with respect and have archeological assessments on each qualified shipwreck. Innocap will utilize the latest technology available to enhance salvage projects.
 

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On the distribution of percentage, that comes from very ancient date. I can show hundreds of contracts "with the percentage of recovered" from the sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries and is nothing new. The novelty was the archeology, who wanted to change these old rules.
 

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