Coil covers, to glue or not to glue on?

[FinderTravis]

Hey M....

Wanna bone ? ? ?

Thought i would share this eventually here...... its in experimental stages still..... but so far....
Excels.

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Thats almost like hydraulic oil on weather checked tires, works like a charm..

 

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[ARC]

Thats almost like hydraulic oil on weather checked tires, works like a charm..

Yes.

 

[FinderTravis]

I also would detect those rocks no problem without coil cover.

I also would detect those rocks no problem without coil cover.

I don't know why, but that makes me think of grinding my teeth on some fleece or running some nails down a chalkboard.

 

[FinderTravis]

I don't. If you did a lot of any hunting around the Great Lakes/northern border States, you would understand why they're pretty much standard.

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I'm certain the great Missoula flood event must have rolled a few stones into Florida as well, Maybe/hopefully ARC will bump into a few without a coil cover and reconsider choice.. lol.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Thats almost like hydraulic oil on weather checked tires, works like a charm..

Just be aware any thing containing petroleum based products is highly corrosive to the insulation on detector cables, that is why you use plant base silicone on the cables to protect them from the UV rays, petroleum base silicone will destroy the insulation on the cables.

All I am doing is sharing my knowledge from working in the detector repair center.

 

[ARC]

Just be aware any thing containing petroleum based products is highly corrosive to the insulation on detector cables, that is why you use plant base silicone on the cables to protect them from the UV rays, petroleum base silicone will destroy the insulation on the cables.

All I am doing is sharing my knowledge from working in the detector repair center.

Its made for rubber.... seals... gaskets etc.
AT-205 is watery and harmless because it's a polymer. ATP calls it a plasticizer. A plasticizer is a solvent used to make a polymer more rubbery by loosening the bonds between molecules.

 

[ARC]

Its made for rubber.... seals... gaskets etc.
AT-205 is watery and harmless because it's a polymer. ATP calls it a plasticizer. A plasticizer is a solvent used to make a polymer more rubbery by loosening the bonds between molecules.

Still in testing phase... so i dont know what end results will be... so far so good.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Its made for rubber.... seals... gaskets etc.
AT-205 is watery and harmless because it's a polymer. ATP calls it a plasticizer. A plasticizer is a solvent used to make a polymer more rubbery by loosening the bonds between molecules.

Just telling you what I know, any petroleum based product is bad for the type of cable insulation used on detectors cables, including the headphones and power cables, it is the same reason you don't use petroleum based products on scuba gear.

"Petroleum jelly might seem harmless, but it can break down and destroy silicone and the rubber on O-rings. It is also important to keep your diving equipment away from alcohol-based products, gasoline, oil, and even some cleansers that you might wash your gear in. Be sure to check all of the labels and ingredients used before washing or soaking your dive gear in it. We recommend that divers should seek advice from an expert when it comes to exposing your equipment to chemical-based products. If you’re not careful, these products may shorten the life of, or even completely destroy, your diving equipment."

9 Things That Can Destroy Your Dive Gear

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[ARC]

Just telling you what I know, any petroleum based product is bad for the type of cable insulation used on detectors cables, including the headphones and power cables, it is the same reason you don't use petroleum based products on scuba gear.

"Petroleum jelly might seem harmless, but it can break down and destroy silicone and the rubber on O-rings. It is also important to keep your diving equipment away from alcohol-based products, gasoline, oil, and even some cleansers that you might wash your gear in. Be sure to check all of the labels and ingredients used before washing or soaking your dive gear in it. We recommend that divers should seek advice from an expert when it comes to exposing your equipment to chemical-based products. If you’re not careful, these products may shorten the life of, or even completely destroy, your diving equipment."

9 Things That Can Destroy Your Dive Gear

Before you decide to buy new dive gear, read about the 9 things that could possibly be destroying your dive gear without you even knowing it.

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AT-205 has one ingredient, diethylene glycol monoethyl ether, CAS 111-90-0, A.K.A. "carbitol"

 

[ARC]

I never use anything on my dive gear.... and i have my fins from over 40+ years ago (dont use them but still could... rubber straps are gone but the rest is all there) have various.
In fact i have other rubber dive gear that is also that old and still good.
Never used a thing on any gear ever.
The only thing i have ever cleaned any dive gear with is SPIT. (mask lens)heh

 

[ticndig]

Just telling you what I know, any petroleum based product is bad for the type of cable insulation used on detectors cables, including the headphones and power cables, it is the same reason you don't use petroleum based products on scuba gear.

"Petroleum jelly might seem harmless, but it can break down and destroy silicone and the rubber on O-rings. It is also important to keep your diving equipment away from alcohol-based products, gasoline, oil, and even some cleansers that you might wash your gear in. Be sure to check all of the labels and ingredients used before washing or soaking your dive gear in it. We recommend that divers should seek advice from an expert when it comes to exposing your equipment to chemical-based products. If you’re not careful, these products may shorten the life of, or even completely destroy, your diving equipment."

9 Things That Can Destroy Your Dive Gear

Before you decide to buy new dive gear, read about the 9 things that could possibly be destroying your dive gear without you even knowing it.

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something we learned in our youth , petroleum will eat your rubbers.

 

[ARC]

something we learned in our youth , petroleum will eat your rubbers.

Something to consider when taking your date to an oil derrick.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Arc, I'm only saying what I learned from my experince working in Minelab and Kellco detector repair centers for 5 years. It's your detector so have every right to use what you want, but I will still warn members of the danger.

In the 5 years working with Dave who was lead tech and ran the center, we easily worked on well over 5000+ detectors. We were also contracted to work on Nokta (before they opened their repair center in N.America) on Aquascan detectors like AQ1B, and some First Texas Bounty Hunters models and Detech detectors.

Dave is a wizzard in electronics.....

 

[ARC]

Arc, I'm only saying what I learned from my experince working in Minelab and Kellco detector repair centers for 5 years. It's your detector so have every right to use what you want, but I will still warn members of the danger.

In the 5 years working with Dave who was lead tech and ran the center, we easily worked on well over 5000+ detectors. We were also contracted to work on Nokta (before they opened their repair center in N.America) on Aquascan detectors like AQ1B, and some First Texas Bounty Hunters models and Detech detectors.

Dave is a wizzard in electronics.....

If able... Ask Dave what his thoughts are on AT-205 on cables and O-rings / plastics etc.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

If able... Ask Dave what his thoughts are on AT-205 on cables and O-rings / plastics etc.

If it is petroleum based he will tell you the same thing, we have been close personal friends for 17 years.

Dave was a Navy Commander, Aviation Maintenance Duty Officer on Aircraft carriers, He was responsible for keeping over a hundred jet fighters operational, hundreds of officers and sailors under him, and he knows electronics, he is a hands on person, and can take apart and rebuild anything electronic.

We did a lot of personal mods on our detectors.

 

[FinderTravis]

Just be aware any thing containing petroleum based products is highly corrosive to the insulation on detector cables, that is why you use plant base silicone on the cables to protect them from the UV rays, petroleum base silicone will destroy the insulation on the cables.

All I am doing is sharing my knowledge from working in the detector repair center.

Good to know! I once used a product called jig-a-loo lubricant, wd 40 copycat, on my dirtbike before placing in storage for winter and next spring it looked like an Elephant sat on it.. Not even kidding.. fuel tank was melted and expanded and when i took it off of the stand discovered shock and fork seals had also done the same! needed all new plastics,external seals and o-rings and at that time was a nightmare to get parts being bike was still fairly new.

Its made for rubber.... seals... gaskets etc.
AT-205 is watery and harmless because it's a polymer. ATP calls it a plasticizer. A plasticizer is a solvent used to make a polymer more rubbery by loosening the bonds between molecules.

The way those automotive seal rejuvinators (snake oils) work is they soften and expand seals/gaskets so they appear to be repaired, but is just a temporary fix, let those same seals and gaskets sit for a while or get past a certain temperature and they will turn into tar or dry right out and crumble.

 

[sprailroad]

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LOOK MOM NO COIL COVER ! ! !

Is it because the covers are ON the coils I hope so, just to protect those little puppy's.

 

[ARC]

Good to know! I once used a product called jig-a-loo lubricant, wd 40 copycat, on my dirtbike before placing in storage for winter and next spring it looked like an Elephant sat on it.. Not even kidding.. fuel tank was melted and expanded and when i took it off of the stand discovered shock and fork seals had also done the same! needed all new plastics,external seals and o-rings and at that time was a nightmare to get parts being bike was still fairly new.

The way those automotive seal rejuvinators (snake oils) work is they soften and expand seals/gaskets so they appear to be repaired, but is just a temporary fix, let those same seals and gaskets sit for a while or get past a certain temperature and they will turn into tar or dry right out and crumble.

I am fully aware of how they work.
Not with this product.
It is well known in the automotive industry among the 40 plus year mechanics and is endorsed highly by all of them.
In fact ... there are no negative (verified) accounts of this product to be found... only praise.

 

[ARC]

I am fully aware of how they work.
Not with this product.
It is well known in the automotive industry among the 40 plus year mechanics and is endorsed highly by all of them.
In fact ... there are no negative (verified) accounts of this product to be found... only praise.

Otherwise i would not have tested it on anything.... I do my homework my friend.

 

[sprailroad]

ARC, I'm not sure what a "babe in the woods" would look like or what one of them would do out there, but sounds good. What I am really impressed by, is the "EONS" part, now I had to look it up to see how long that is, and just ONE eon is a "billion" years! Just how long have you REALLY been on Treasure Net? Alrighty then, having said that, do not want to "highjack" a thread, that can have useful information for newer detectorist, so it is do NOT glue a cover on the coil, and that there is no "rule" that you must use one. Choice is yours. To cover, or not to cover, that is the question.