✅ SOLVED Chinese Coin?

vandaria

vandaria

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Hi all! I knew this wasn't a mere washer when I dug it up! Couldn't see the characters but the square hole had me thinking =) Anyway I do not have it cleaned up very well as I am unsure how to go about it? This is what it looks like after playing with a toothpick on it, but I am afraid to use a toothbrush/soap water in case it hides the outlines of the characters. Any ideas?

And then of course the main questions. Any clue when it was made? And is it a coin or just a charm someone had?

Thanks for looking! (ah yes this is the size of a quarter btw)


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I didnt realize the coin was so worn. Lesson learned here. Use a soft brush and/or toothpick only for very worn coins.
 

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Ya I didn't know it was so worn either til the dirt came off :-[
 

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I am thinking it looks most like the Boo-Yuwan one. Peking..Board of Public Works.
 

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vandaria said:
I am thinking it looks most like the Boo-Yuwan one. Peking..Board of Public Works.
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Peking is the most common but nope its not Peking.

Its one of these 3, I believe. (The mint mark is on the right)
 

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AU24K said:
I've seen several sewing baskets with chinese coins attached at flea markets over the years.

sewing baskets with chinese coins - Bing Images

Perhaps that was the source of your find.

Best Wishes,

Scott
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the fineness/narrow of the characters kind of leans toward those "novelty",cash coins........I didnt want to be the bearer of "bad",news,but that was my first imperssion :dontknow:
 

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Its a possibility to be a modern replica trinket. We actually have a Chinese Cash coin that made banner because it was dated from the 11th century and found in the USA. While everyone was congratulating the finder, I discovered it was a modern token and I hated to be the bearer of bad news. It was necessary as he would have eventually found out the truth. He refused to believe it at the time and I believe its still in the banner lol. Schitt happens.
 

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when I get a chance I will attempt to point out what differences I am referring to.....
 

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I am happy with it no matter what =) And had been wondering as well if it was just a charm even saying such in my first post. But even if it is a fake still neat to see which coin it was copying. Thanks for all the info!!
 

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kuger said:
when I get a chance I will attempt to point out what differences I am referring to.....
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oops I found the old banner cash coin thread from 2008 and it appears the finder is now very upset with me and my finding of a modern machine struck token match. Hey Im not an expert but I do have some experience making IDs and comparing pictures but nonetheless I may be wrong. 2008 was a long time ago and I dont remember it all.

I have requested that the OP (Imafishingnut) post better pics here in the WIIT Forum so we can determine the authenticity. He sent emails to several collectors that authenticated his find but didnt even realize a replica was ever made. Well they made millions of replicas. It may be hard to determine real from replicas but if Imafishingnut cooperates, by posting his banner find here, I am hoping you will add your knowlege of cash coins to the discussion.

Here is a pic of some of the many machine struck replicas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_cash_(currency_unit)

Here is the banner find from 2008 you need to scroll to the last page. The first 2 pages are mostly talking about his saltwater find, congrats for the find and different scenarios of Chinese discovering America. . http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...st-coin-date-1408-1424-d-update-new-pics.html
 

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Real interesting read. Sorry he is some how now getting mad at you =( I agree tho, without a ton of photos it can't be easy for anyone to determine the authenticity of an object..or not.
 

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vandaria said:
Real interesting read. Sorry he is some how now getting mad at you =( I agree tho, without a ton of photos it can't be easy for anyone to determine the authenticity of an object..or not.
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Its not the first time I have had this reaction. I have been verbally attacked, threatened and slandered for trying to make the proper ID over the years here at TN. But other members say TN needs people like me. He may be correct that the banner is not the place. But it should have been IDed before the banner... not after.

With better pics I think the collectors will retract their statements. I studied the links posted of the authentic versions and they just dont match. But its up to Imsfishingnut to request help and I think his mind is already made up.
 

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.....when a person finds on average of 50-100 of these a year,you can develop an ability to notice small details that either are or not seen on "Authentic",pieces....my sites are unique in that there was pretty much no activity past 1900 in them,and some none past 1860,so the chance of a "newr replica",being found in them is slim....that being said,I usually have a fellow member Hikeinmtns on here look mine over(I send him pics front and back)and he i.d's them for me(I havent got caught up with him in a while though)I can only recall two,that were not in any books and just assumed they were likely replica's....they also had a different style of character,that is similar to the replica's I see
 

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Here is a fake
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here is a real one
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I would lean more towards mine being fake then. I recall the little dots seem to be there still and my characters are definitely nice and crisp and narrower like the 1st one. Looks like I have a new necklace then =)
 

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vandaria said:
I would lean more towards mine being fake then. I recall the little dots seem to be there still and my characters are definitely nice and crisp and narrower like the 1st one. Looks like I have a new necklace then =)
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I need to look at some of mine,but I dont believe the stipling is a sure fire sign of a replica.From what I have seen though,the narrower letters usually are though....from what I have seen
 

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