You got me there Dog. It has been a little over a year now.
Buried Pots Of Gold / NC
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Franklin,W Power Clancy wrote that article Feb 9,1961 and did provide his sources:
CIVIL WAR HISTORY Vol V No IV,December 1959 http://muse.jhv.edu/journals/cwh/
The D A R Magazine,Jan 1960
THE STORY OF CIVIL WAR MONEY-Fred Reinfeld
If it is purely fiction,why not contact the President of that org,Pat Homan,and discuss this matter.
[email protected]
With your knowledge,maybe we can all learn something new. HH
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I think you are sadly mistaken in your assumptions and your views seem to be precariously slanted. Being from one of those counties you would have lost your bet before you even got started. The world is a lot larger than this thread.
Tnmountains: Appreciate the reply and thanks to the great state of Tennessee for sending the valiant Davy Crockett to defend the
Alamo. It is somewhat strange that Jesse is remembered and regarded more highly than the true heroes of their day. When I was
young Texas elementary schools demonstrated their reverence for Davy by requiring all students to wear the appropriate headwear
to and from school. Mothers stood proudly at the front gate as we passed by our coon tails trailing in the wind.
If you would be so kind to offer the name of your county I shall make good on my bet.
Alamo. It is somewhat strange that Jesse is remembered and regarded more highly than the true heroes of their day. When I was
young Texas elementary schools demonstrated their reverence for Davy by requiring all students to wear the appropriate headwear
to and from school. Mothers stood proudly at the front gate as we passed by our coon tails trailing in the wind.
If you would be so kind to offer the name of your county I shall make good on my bet.
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Well here's a story tied to this story.
It was over 15 years ago when I read this story of the gold in iron pots hidden along the RR. I did a bit of research, which was harder in those days, and found out that this story was wide spread and extremely hard to prove either way because of the confusion at the time of the event. So the only part that could be proven was that the two sets of tracks involved in the story existed at the time of the event. I worked backwards from the trains last stop. I hit about 10 places where old roads crossed the tracks, the most likely places they would have hidden them. That is the crossroads would have served in recovery location of the caches. When I was hitting the last place a state trooper pulled up, came over, and ask me what I was looking for. He said his brother was into Metal detecting. I told him the story and since this was the last place I was going to hit ,I gave him a copy of the map I had made. He thanked me and gave me his card. He said if I had any trouble on the road with the police, just show them his card. Well I didn't find any pots of gold, but at least that saved me a ticket. Frank
It was over 15 years ago when I read this story of the gold in iron pots hidden along the RR. I did a bit of research, which was harder in those days, and found out that this story was wide spread and extremely hard to prove either way because of the confusion at the time of the event. So the only part that could be proven was that the two sets of tracks involved in the story existed at the time of the event. I worked backwards from the trains last stop. I hit about 10 places where old roads crossed the tracks, the most likely places they would have hidden them. That is the crossroads would have served in recovery location of the caches. When I was hitting the last place a state trooper pulled up, came over, and ask me what I was looking for. He said his brother was into Metal detecting. I told him the story and since this was the last place I was going to hit ,I gave him a copy of the map I had made. He thanked me and gave me his card. He said if I had any trouble on the road with the police, just show them his card. Well I didn't find any pots of gold, but at least that saved me a ticket. Frank
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wow ,, this was a good read , as usual i am impressed with the work and research people have put in .
couple things i want to comment on, first is the word of mouth issue not being a good thing to follow, what you have to keep in mind is although facts change from person to person the story usually had a reason to be told in the first place , that is how history was spread for centuries before books , and honestly up here in the mountains of east tennessee it is still spread that way ,,,lol
now that said ,it seems with all the published information , from news articles of treasure found by farm hands to the old lady a earlier poster meet with that although she didnt tell him about the gold she did point out the jars that were used for yard decoration now, it seems to me there is enough proof to say the odds are there is treasure there or was there .
now last thing and i am sure i will get a reply to this comment but i got to say it , seeing 2 guys that seem to really know what they are talking about attacking each other does not give either of you credit, i know this is a free country and you 2 seem to have issues and this is the right place to disagree , but i hate to see a great thread like this brought down by arguing for reasons other then the post.
couple things i want to comment on, first is the word of mouth issue not being a good thing to follow, what you have to keep in mind is although facts change from person to person the story usually had a reason to be told in the first place , that is how history was spread for centuries before books , and honestly up here in the mountains of east tennessee it is still spread that way ,,,lol
now that said ,it seems with all the published information , from news articles of treasure found by farm hands to the old lady a earlier poster meet with that although she didnt tell him about the gold she did point out the jars that were used for yard decoration now, it seems to me there is enough proof to say the odds are there is treasure there or was there .
now last thing and i am sure i will get a reply to this comment but i got to say it , seeing 2 guys that seem to really know what they are talking about attacking each other does not give either of you credit, i know this is a free country and you 2 seem to have issues and this is the right place to disagree , but i hate to see a great thread like this brought down by arguing for reasons other then the post.
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Thanks last lastleg
I grew up knowing that we were the volunteer state for a reason and as any conflict arose Tennessee always sent it's fair share of warriors. I was never taught anything about Jessie James in schools or did my family ever discuss him. What I read was that he was a thief and murderer.
Your quote was "I bet every single county south of the Mason Dixie has folks believing that Jesse James rode through and left a cache behind." I think you meant to say "some folks" I am in
Yeah Crockett was one of many. Our treasure legends here are more towards Cherokee/Confederate gold and caves not Jessie James..
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Schatz unter sumpf wolkeberg
Gold auf eisenkessel
Seerauber silbergeld auf Felsig Platz
Ein anderer schwangerhundvater feemarchen
Zeit bekommen BURMA SHAVE!
aquanut
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Close,but no Cohiba for you!Need to brush up on the idioms. Schwanger also means big.
Now for Seerauber...
Now for Seerauber...
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OOOPS! Here's the link to the truth >>>>>>> https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Y0UsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=s84EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5624,2501910
goldenrecoveries
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It would be nice if you could really get some solid historical info. I have read thing on state web sites, maps, publications and found little info that really matched the real thing. nice to be able to get your teeth into something solid.I'm starting a new thread about a story in Jarbidge that the real story is not not what you read.
The truth here https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Y0UsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=s84EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5624,2501910
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How bout a documented first hand account that says it never happened? Somebody will probably say he is lying ha ha ha / here it is >>>>>>> https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Y0UsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=s84EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5624,2501910
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After their stay at Marshall's Plantation in Abbeville, CSA Sec of State Judah P Benjamin and CSA Sec of War, John C Breckinridge, separately departed for Florida. Jefferson Davis's baggage wagons were also headed to Florida, guarded by his brother-in-laws. Davis, Breckinridge and Benjamin all had a portion of the remaining Confederate treasury, along with CSA Capt John Taylor Wood, Davis's nephew, and the grandson of US President Zachery Taylor.
Wood was captured with Davis, but bribed a Union soldier with two $20 gold coins and eventually joined Benjamin and Breckinridge in Ocala, Florida.
Davis's wagons made it to Yulee's Cottonwood Plantation where two chests were buried , the rest sent to the Waldo train depot where it was captured by the Union, Benjamin departed Ocala , traveled to the Gamble Plantation in Ellenton, Florida and escaped to Bermuda and then to England.
Wood and Breckinridge traveled south up the St Johns River in a lifeboat that was captured by CSA J J Dickinson when his cavalry captured and sank two Union gunboats on the St Johns, and through the intercoastal made it to Miami, where they seized a Cuban fishing boat, and sailed to Cuba.
Wood was captured with Davis, but bribed a Union soldier with two $20 gold coins and eventually joined Benjamin and Breckinridge in Ocala, Florida.
Davis's wagons made it to Yulee's Cottonwood Plantation where two chests were buried , the rest sent to the Waldo train depot where it was captured by the Union, Benjamin departed Ocala , traveled to the Gamble Plantation in Ellenton, Florida and escaped to Bermuda and then to England.
Wood and Breckinridge traveled south up the St Johns River in a lifeboat that was captured by CSA J J Dickinson when his cavalry captured and sank two Union gunboats on the St Johns, and through the intercoastal made it to Miami, where they seized a Cuban fishing boat, and sailed to Cuba.
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I live in the Ellenton area and have been to he Gamble mansion many times. It's all restored. Pics and info here >>> https://www.floridastateparks.org/park/Gamble-Plantation
Yulee Surgar Mill >>> https://www.floridastateparks.org/park/yulee-sugar-mill
What documentation do you have that "Davis's wagons made it to Yulee's Cottonwood Plantation where two chests were buried". I thought I had it in my files but can't find it?
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Davis's baggage train arrived at David Levy Yulee's Cottonwood Plantation in Archer, Florida, May 22, 1865, which consisted of a sturdily built ambulance wagon and another sturdy wagon. CSA Capt Watson Van Benthuysen, and his brothers, J D and W S( Davis's brothers-in-law), J W Scott, Fred Emory, M H Clark, Tench F Tilghman, and W E Dickerson made up the detail.
15 yo C Wickiliffe Yulee and CSA Lt John S Purviance, Co G, 10thFla Reg buried the two trunks in one of the animal out buildings.
After shipping the rest to the RR station at Waldo, Florida, Nannie Wickiliffe Yulee traveled to Ocala and stayed with her husband's Benjamin cousins (Judah P Benjamin was also a cousin).
NOTE* The house of Simon and Solomon Benjamin is still standing in Ocala and is a real estate office.
15 yo C Wickiliffe Yulee and CSA Lt John S Purviance, Co G, 10thFla Reg buried the two trunks in one of the animal out buildings.
After shipping the rest to the RR station at Waldo, Florida, Nannie Wickiliffe Yulee traveled to Ocala and stayed with her husband's Benjamin cousins (Judah P Benjamin was also a cousin).
NOTE* The house of Simon and Solomon Benjamin is still standing in Ocala and is a real estate office.
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NOTE* Benjamin, Breckinridge, and Wood traveled up the St Johns River, past Union held Palatka, then up the Oklawaha River to Silver Springs and Ocala by way of river blockade runner CSA Capt Hubbart Hart's JAMES BURT riverboat.
Lola Sanchez, a Confederate spy from Palatka (she provided intelligence on Union gunboat movements on the St Johns to river blockade runners and Dickinson), received 500 Mexican silver dollars from Benjamin for her work for the Cause.
The remainder of that keg of Mexican silver dollars was buried at CSA Fort Brook, Orange Springs (where the Oklawaha meets Orange Creek).
Hart received $4500 in various gold specie, and bought a newer riverboat. (After May 1865, the JAMES BURT was never seen again ?).
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