BULLIES AND THE LDM?

[cactusjumper]

Does this mean you don't have a single picture?

Joe Ribaudo

 

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[Oroblanco]

Santa Fe NM - I know you want to get to the bottom of this missing person case; Jesse is one of us and treasure hunters take care of their own, at least the 'old school' types. A big problem is that we don't know where Jesse was really interested in looking, which would be the logical place to look for him or some sign that he had been there. I have not been able to find out what treasure forums he was on or who he was talking with, which would really help as he probably discussed the area (or areas) he was considering. What do you think? Any idea what forum he was on, or anyone he might have talked to before going into the Superstitions?

I know you have suggested the Bluff Springs mtn area but did Jesse ever mention this place to anyone? That area kind of has been "ground zero" for many Dutch-hunters, but there are many other areas he might have been interested in too - Blacktop Mesa being another place that many folks consider "ground zero" for example. I just wonder, if he were heading for Bluff Springs mtn, why go in from Tortilla Ranch which is a very rough and dangerous trail, maybe even a little longer than going in from another way. It is pretty rough country between where his camp was and Bluff Springs too. Would he have left his camp and try to make it there in a day-hike? I don't know if I would try that, but then I am neither young nor tough as some guys.

My apologies for going off-topic here talking about Jesse again, just wish for some kind of clue that might help the searchers find him.
Oroblanco

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

NO IT DOESNT MEAN I DONT HAVE A SINGLE PICTURE! I HAVE LOTS OF PICTURES, AND ME NOT POSTING THEM MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE TO ANYONE BUT YOU AND YOUR LDM CLUB! POINT IS YOU GUYS ARE MIGHTY PISSED!

 

[cactusjumper]

Not at all, John. It's just that you have worked very hard to convince us that you have found the LDM, and any little positive evidence you can provide would go much farther than all of your posts. You see, I want to believe you.

Joe Ribaudo

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

""""I just wonder, if he were heading for Bluff Springs mtn, why go in from Tortilla Ranch which is a very rough and dangerous trail, maybe even a little longer than going in from another way."""" VERY GOOD POINT ROY! """"If jesse had done 10 years of research or more as has been said and many books he read on the subject"""" AND> If in fact he was headed for bluffspring mountain maybee he was """"attempting to be unseen"""" that would be the only reason i would take a longer way! If HE HAD DONE ALL HIS RESEARCH HE WOULD HAVE SUSPECTED THE MINE TO BE PROTECTED AUTOMATICALLY! IT REALLY DOESNT TAKE TEN YEARS OF RESEARCH TO SURMIZE THIS>

 

[cactusjumper]

[If HE HAD DONE ALL HIS RESEARCH HE WOULD HAVE SUSPECTED THE MINE TO BE PROTECTED AUTOMATICALLY! IT REALLY DOESNT TAKE TEN YEARS OF RESEARCH TO SURMIZE THIS>]

That's a nice point John. That also makes it pretty obvious that he wouldn't have been going to Bluff Spring Mountain, and he would not be going in alone. Jesse was a very intelligent man, according to his mom.

Anyone familiar with Bluff Spring Mountain, knows there is no working mine there, and no one guarding the place. Do you believe that's where Jesse was going?

Joe Ribaudo

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

Joe Please Tell Us All About your """"REAL DUTCHMAN HUNTERS CLUB"""" as many of you call yourselfs. WHAT IS A """"REAL DUTCHMAN"""" HUNTER? IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE AND ARE """"MINING THE DUTCHMAN FOR REAL"""" WHATS UP? YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS SAYING YOUR REAL DUTCHMAN HUNTERS. DOES THAT MEAN YOU HUNT DOWN PEOPLE LOOKING FOR THE LDM AND ATTACK THEM IF THEY ARE CLOSE> HERE ON THE INTERNET & THE SUPERSTITIONS! OR IS THE CLUB OVERALL """A STRAIT"""" WITH A FEW OF YOU BAD BULLIE EGGS IN THE BUNCH! ID HATE TO THINK THE CLUB WAS ALL BAD? SO TELL ME JOE WHAT IS A REAL DUTCHMAN HUNTER AS YOU HAVE PUT IT?

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

""""That's a nice point John. That also makes it pretty obvious that he wouldn't have been going to Bluff Spring Mountain, and he would not be going in alone. Jesse was a very intelligent man, according to his mom.""""
ROY JESSE WAS ALSO ON MEDS! AND REGARDLESS I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE IN ALONE JIM HATT AND LYNDON GRAVES!

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

SO THAT MAKES IT PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT HE VERY WELL COULD HAVE! HAVE THEY SEARCHED THAT AREA?

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

""""Anyone familiar with Bluff Spring Mountain, knows there is no working mine there."""" I BEG TO DIFFER ROY THE PERALTA MAPS INDICATE TO MANY THAT BLUFF SPRING MOUNTAIN IS IN FACT THE MOTHER LOAD! BEING VERY CLOSE TO WEAVERS NEEDLE! IT MAKES PERFECT GEOLOGICAL SENSE> TELL ME THE TRUTH ROY ARE YOU IN THE LDM CLUB OR LDMA? BECAUSE THERES A --deleted--LOAD OF GOLD DEEP IN THE BEDROCK!

 

[cactusjumper]

Jim Hatt packs a gun, just ask Clay Worst. They were partners for awhile. Don't know your other friend.

A real Dutch Hunter takes lots of pictures and goes over them with a magnifying glass when he gets home. Kinda like what you do with Google Earth, only up close and personal.

Why did you call me "Roy"?

Joe Ribaudo

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

SHOW US THEN JOE SINCE YOUR A REAL DUTCHMAN HUNTER SHOW US YOUR REAL DUTCHMAN PICS?

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

JOE I NEVER CALLED YOU ROY I WAS TALKING TO ROY! ARE YOU DRINKING AGAIN JOE?

 

[BenThereDoneThat]

 

[Oroblanco]

Santa Fe NM wrote

ROY JESSE WAS ALSO ON MEDS!

You know, I forgot that; but he was in good physical condition though right? He didn't have any kind of heart condition or high blood pressure etc that could be risky without meds right? I sure hope that the meds are not something he HAS to have to stay alive, or that he has them with him, if he is laid up somewhere injured.

I hadn't considered the possibility of his choosing to go in via Tortilla as a way to go 'incognito'. It is much less frequented by hikers and tourists than the other routes, which is why I like it, but it is sure not the easiest way in unless you are wanting to be in that end of the Superstitions.

SFNM do you think he could have made it from his camp to Bluff Springs mtn in say, a half-day's hike? I mean, if he did it with the plan of going out and returning to his camp in the same day, he would have figured he could cover that distance right? I just DON'T know.

My apologies for going off-topic again, just that you guys have brought up some points that got me to thinking.
Oroblanco

 

[Trackerman]

Lol

 

[BenThereDoneThat]

I CAN BE PART OF THIS CIRCUS TOO IF I WANT!!!!! YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee
sorry people i felt like yelling that...........

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

ROY at my grandfathers ranch IN VERY RUGGED MOUNTANS ive easily walked/jogged/ran 30 or more miles per day. IVE HEARD GERONIMO COVERED UP TO 70 MILES PER DAY.

 

[cactusjumper]

[""""Anyone familiar with Bluff Spring Mountain, knows there is no working mine there."""" I BEG TO DIFFER ROY THE PERALTA MAPS INDICATE TO MANY THAT BLUFF SPRING MOUNTAIN IS IN FACT THE MOTHER LOAD! BEING VERY CLOSE TO WEAVERS NEEDLE! IT MAKES PERFECT GEOLOGICAL SENSE> TELL ME THE TRUTH ROY ARE YOU IN THE LDM CLUB OR LDMA? BECAUSE THERES A --deleted--LOAD OF GOLD DEEP IN THE BEDROCK!]

As a matter of fact, I am drinking. Got a glass of milk right here. :P

Sorry I misunderstood you John. You quoted me and then differed with Roy. Should have caught that right away.

"JESSE CAPEN DID NOT PACK A GUN"

Yes, I know.

Make a deal with you John. You show one picture of you in the Superstitions, and I will show ten.

Your friend,

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Trackerman]

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