Bit of advice needed please

[Skexis]

Hey all. Just want to work something out in my head. Any advice or insight is welcome.

Bought a detector from an online secondhand shop. It was listed as an XP Deus 2. Arrived today and it's actually an XP Deus 1. Tbh the shop probably didn't know but anyway...
Cost was $600. Sadly it is no use to me as I want something that has a volume control for the built-in speaker as I don't like wearing headphones. I know I probably should but the only time I do is when I use my Sand Shark and that's only because they're hard wired.

I also have a near new XP ORX which again doesn't have a volume control for the external speaker. Bought the "Deus 2" with a view to selling the ORX as the Deus 2 has a volume control for the speaker but I've now ended up with two XP units, neither having a volume control for the external speaker. So, should I

• return the Deus 1 for a refund and keep the ORX
• sell the ORX and keep the Deus 1 (how much better is the D1 over the ORX anyway?)

or, as neither has a volume control for the external speaker

• return the Deus 1, sell the ORX and buy a Nokta Legend

Worth mentioning is that I would have used the Deus 2 in seawater and both the D1 and the ORX are unsuitable for that purpose.

Really undecided which way to go.

Thanks for reading.

 

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[pepperj]

Hey all. Just want to work something out in my head. Any advice or insight is welcome.

Bought a detector from an online secondhand shop. It was listed as an XP Deus 2. Arrived today and it's actually an XP Deus 1. Tbh the shop probably didn't know but anyway...
Cost was $600. Sadly it is no use to me as I want something that has a volume control for the built-in speaker as I don't like wearing headphones. I know I probably should but the only time I do is when I use my Sand Shark and that's only because they're hard wired.

I also have a near new XP ORX which again doesn't have a volume control for the external speaker. Bought the "Deus 2" with a view to selling the ORX as the Deus 2 has a volume control for the speaker but I've now ended up with two XP units, neither having a volume control for the external speaker. So, should I

• return the Deus 1 for a refund and keep the ORX
• sell the ORX and keep the Deus 1 (how much better is the D1 over the ORX anyway?)

or, as neither has a volume control for the external speaker

• return the Deus 1, sell the ORX and buy a Nokta Legend

Worth mentioning is that I would have used the Deus 2 in seawater and both the D1 and the ORX are unsuitable for that purpose.

Really undecided which way to go.

Thanks for reading.

Return the item as it's not what was advertised.
Anybody private or a business knows the difference between a Deus 1 & 2.
Look different, and are different.
Go for the Deus ll going forward.

I have used the Deus ll once without headphones.
I will say the I probably dug unnecessary targets, and missed good targets.
Headphones for any machine is a must if one us serious about hearing all the tones.
The VDI is great on the D2, but let that be the secondary to the ears.

 

[Skexis]

Update: seller is ok with returning the D1 so I guess that's problem solved. Part of me can't quite believe I have acquired a Deus and am letting it go as a couple of years ago these were the mutts nuts and tbh I'm half tempted to keep it but I know it'll probably just live in its box for months on end.

Was originally looking for a submersible salt water unit so for my purposes a Legend seems like the way forward. Still not sure what to do with the ORX though.

 

[TORRERO]

Still not sure what to do with the ORX though.

You can send it to me if you like, I'll freely accept anything I get in the mail 🤣

 

[TORRERO]

BTW I have both the DEUS I and II, I use DEUS I with elliptical for coins and jewelry, and the DEUS II for beach and relic.
My friend uses a Minelab 800 (I had one and sold it) and I generally get more stuff with the DEUS II than he does as far as relic stuff goes. DEUS II goes deeper and is way more stable on salt water sand.. BOTH have to add a cable to go into the water though, which I don't use..
Good Luck !!

 

[Bucket Lister]

Update: seller is ok with returning the D1 so I guess that's problem solved.

Good. IMO, there's NO WAY Dēus and Dēus II could be confused.

Coils are completely different as well.

So, assuming the return goes hitchless, you'll be starting over.

You're looking for a MD suitable for salt water hunting and with volume control on the stalk.

I would start with that: Define the Problem.
Search: best salt water metal detector, compare features, etc., and decide on what you really want. If Dēus II is your choice, great. If it's the Legend, that's fine too; at least you've got a goal/target.

Next comes how you're going to accomplish it. Keep what you like and sell what you don't like/use anymore.

As far as headphones....

Headphones for any machine is a must if one us serious about hearing all the tones.

I agree with this. One thing nice about Dēus II is the choice of headphones; there are styles/types I don't like either--and none are perfect--but I have a couple of different sets for different conditions/situations.

 

[ticndig]

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[pepperj]

Hey all. Just want to work something out in my head. Any advice or insight is welcome.

Bought a detector from an online secondhand shop. It was listed as an XP Deus 2. Arrived today and it's actually an XP Deus 1. Tbh the shop probably didn't know but anyway...
Cost was $600. Sadly it is no use to me as I want something that has a volume control for the built-in speaker as I don't like wearing headphones. I know I probably should but the only time I do is when I use my Sand Shark and that's only because they're hard wired.

I also have a near new XP ORX which again doesn't have a volume control for the external speaker. Bought the "Deus 2" with a view to selling the ORX as the Deus 2 has a volume control for the speaker but I've now ended up with two XP units, neither having a volume control for the external speaker. So, should I

• return the Deus 1 for a refund and keep the ORX
• sell the ORX and keep the Deus 1 (how much better is the D1 over the ORX anyway?)

or, as neither has a volume control for the external speaker

• return the Deus 1, sell the ORX and buy a Nokta Legend

Worth mentioning is that I would have used the Deus 2 in seawater and both the D1 and the ORX are unsuitable for that purpose.

Really undecided which way to go.

Thanks for reading.

Just a heads up regarding headphones and hunting salt water/ beaches.
If you were to ask anyone that hunts either most if not all will state headphones are a must.
Wave action noise alone will drown out the sound of deep targets and little chirps/sounds that could be a good target.

I guess I should be asking the question why you don't like wearing headphones or why only the external speaker?

 

[TORRERO]

BTW I have both the DEUS I and II, I use DEUS I with elliptical for coins and jewelry, and the DEUS II for beach and relic.
My friend uses a Minelab 800 (I had one and sold it) and I generally get more stuff with the DEUS II than he does as far as relic stuff goes. DEUS II goes deeper and is way more stable on salt water sand.. BOTH have to add a cable to go into the water though, which I don't use..
Good Luck !!

Just to be CLEAR he has outgunned me for silver, (Minelab 800) though not because I wouldn't have found it, but because I didn't walk over it.. In the last 2 years he has taken 2 silver halves that obviously I would have gotten if I had swing over them, and several silver dimes and a silver quarter.. I always say that you can NEVER say that one machine is BETTER than another UNLESS you can do a physical side by side signal check, because most good targets will sound good on ANY machine.. its those questionable signals that each machine determines in its own way, whether the hunter should dig something or not.. My machine might tell me to dig something where as your machine might say its junk...
So there's that

 

[TORRERO]

I would start with that: Define the Problem.
Search: best salt water metal detector, compare features, etc., and decide on what you really want. If Dēus II is your choice, great. If it's the Legend, that's fine too; at least you've got a goal/target.

Just from personal experience, I have gotten some targets on the beach with my DEUS II that I don't think others were digging, weather because of their settings or because they had crap machines (probably NOT) But I'm thinking DEUS II for salt water sandy beaches is one of the top machines...
Of course I'm a bit biased... 🤣

 

[pepperj]

Just to be CLEAR he has outgunned me for silver, (Minelab 800) though not because I wouldn't have found it, but because I didn't walk over it.. In the last 2 years he has taken 2 silver halves that obviously I would have gotten if I had swing over them, and several silver dimes and a silver quarter.. I always say that you can NEVER say that one machine is BETTER than another UNLESS you can do a physical side by side signal check, because most good targets will sound good on ANY machine.. its those questionable signals that each machine determines in its own way, whether the hunter should dig something or not.. My machine might tell me to dig something where as your machine might say its junk...
So there's that

A friend use to get 250-400 silvers a year digging parks.
(10yrs ago)
Minelab Explorer SE

Certain machines are just great for certain things, that and knowing that machine.

 

[TORRERO]

and knowing that machine

 

[Bart@Big Boys Hobbies]

I always say that you can NEVER say that one machine is BETTER than another UNLESS you can do a physical side by side signal check, because most good targets will sound good on ANY machine..

AGREED! You can't fairly compare anything unless you test him on the same exact target at the same exact time!
The XP DEUS II is an AMAZING salt water machine though, especially on jewelry!

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