Beginners Luck and 520,000lbs of gold later !!!

[Somero]

.......let me know what youve found when you go out there......

I know you're going to get the "Valley Fever" REAL BAD !!!!! LOL

Valley Fever is not a laughing matter........................I know someone who has it really bad, as in surgery to remove lung tissue. I have also lost one of my dogs too it as well, trust me it was not funny, we had to put him down to keep him from suffering..............so I would suggest you go play your game somewhere else since nobody is going to go and look for you and "let you know"

Take 30 minutes and read about Coccidioidomycosis, you can even Google it.

Good luck, I'm done.

 

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[Eldo]

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This is obviously the gash mark into the triangle, which looks to me as a triangle/ pyramid destroyed by a meteorite.

the sombrero/omega symbol is to the left

 

[Eldo]

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This one shows the Omega clearly and the slant is exactly matching the shape of the sombrero

you can also see the three points that were drilled in the stones, were also carved in the rock

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[Eldo]

The numbers on the other side of the Latin Heart are not indicating quantities of gold cached at each location. The numbers are geographical elevations.

That is impossible seeing as the numbers vary so fricking much......

if that was true at all, they would be placed between the elevation of "I" or 1'-0" at cache #14 going all the way up to the top one at elevation CCCLXXXCICICCCCILXIXXVII at cache #29-31

or REAL HIGH UP A CLIFF THAT DOESN'T EXIST THERE....and probably there isnt any feature in that area that goes from sea level to that high in that short of a distance

Thats an epic rebuttal to the first person who hasnt forced a single marking or tried to warp any of the history at all into a telephone game....

the Latin Heart markings are written in code....

the roman numerals relate to letters of the alphabet.......turns into a complete description of the heart area and the corresponding caches.....what you have to do is take the map and overlay it to match the lines up to the corresponding features in the terrain and voila, the translations describe the area perfectly....every one......

....you go to the largest one first........as the mark with the arrow looping over the Bulldogs has the number 1 on it.....where the cross is kept...

i dont think I just matched a few points here////ahem

 

[Eldo]

Valley Fever is not a laughing matter........................I know someone who has it really bad, as in surgery to remove lung tissue. I have also lost one of my dogs too it as well, trust me it was not funny, we had to put him down to keep him from suffering..............so I would suggest you go play your game somewhere else since nobody is going to go and look for you and "let you know"

Take 30 minutes and read about Coccidioidomycosis, you can even Google it.

Good luck, I'm done.

Ill play my game wherever I choose

And your assbackwards interpretation of the Valley GOLD Fever I was talking about has nothing to do with your loss of loved one's or your dog

dont attempt to turn my discovery into your complaints about how others dont cater to your misinterpretations, or you look like a total ****** giving orders here from the peanut gallery

Thanks for letting us know youre done////

good luck to you too....later

 

[sgtfda]

Allright here's some more spooky stuff to boot.....

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This is something of an ancient and modern legend, wrapped into a tale of numerous telephone games that I have figured out thoroughly, and deciphered the locations of every single marking on the map, to lead to the area that Peralta settled in and formed a mining town around, as he was known to have been in the area for some time. It took me 30 minutes on Google Earth to match the river on the map with the ridge, the rest of the time I have been pinpointing the clues along the trail I have found. It has been uncovered through a little bit of leg work from a few journeys in meditation as well as factual diggings to clarify the actual confirmation I know is true in my own head.

520,770 lbs is a lot of gold, so it has been more of a logistical nightmare than an adventure so far.

The stones were found in the 50's. There was only one other person who knew about the people who mined the areas before Waltz found a single mine, and he had a hand drawn map.....
.....given to him by a descendent of the Peraltas. Waltz got sick in one flood and the lady who helped him on his deathbed, was then relayed info about a single mine. This woman tried to follow the clues there ...... she didn't find it, but it was not the map to the Peralta Troves and the Church of Santa Fe Treasures, as the two maps are totally different......subsequent people died there looking for the Lost Dutchman loot and some came back with discoveries of other mines and deposits around the area, due to its vast stores of strata that is carrying huge volcanic veins. Some of the gold that Waltz brought back was basically encrusted into this volcanic strata, that borders on horizontal layers of rock with lighter sandstone and quartzite.....some went as far to try to analyze the gold to say it was from another Spanish mine in California that Waltz found before coming to AZ, causing the fusion of these tales of the Lost Dutchman into the Peralta Mines, but we do know Waltz was said to keep bars of gold under his bed......not just loose tailings, flakes, or nuggets, as numerous statements confirmed this.

According to legend, the Apache Thunder God was angered because of the excessive pillaging of the Cibola Mines that the Apache were hiding from the Conquistadors......the real City of Gold.....the real Main Vein, this area is legendary not just for the gold that comes from it, but there is a weird presence that gives it the name Superstitions...the area was hit with huge earthquakes and also was flooded numerous times, wiping out a lot of the settlements there...its said that the valley is watched by the Apache Spirit and only those who are supposed to be there will be given passage. Some say they see the shadow warriors and see the arrows fly by their faces.

Of course this was years ago and now the Parks and Rec plays the same game but with permits, fracking, and Chemtrails so......... They wont let anyone do anything without full authorization from a superior over their BS agenda......prolly have to come from the Federal Department of the Interior, with attaches from the Apache Nation, The Kingdom of Spain, and the Smithsonian "Castle" .....they are really old school preservationists......I'm from Princeton, NJ by birth, and not a Bonesman from Yale.

Also when I noticed the name Van Buren in a Phoenix area map, I looked into their dealings and how they were a part of a gold heist themselves, and it was in consideration of this time of financial and banking corruption, that was the timing that funded and supported this foundation of Martin Van Buren, and the Andrew Jackson Presidency. They had removed the Cherokee, and many other Bands, right after the discovery of Gold in the area surrounding Dahlonega, GA. When you look at the fact they moved out the Navajo and Apache as well, there had to be a reason and those are the only two lands that were stolen during the "Manifest Destiny" roundups, as they were trying to steal their mines. So if the Apache never gave up the location, and were allowing the Spanish to mine there for so long, yet were later moved away from the area by the US govt., that might have saved the trove from being taken after the massacres of the peralta men.

There is a strange likeness between the Ridge Lines of the Bulldogs near Saguaro Dam, and the picture crafted for Van Buren, which I added below, the mountain can be seen in the shadow above the table, set on a Masons Checkerboard Tile Floor, where he is holding a folded piece of paper (a map perhaps) and the prow of a great mountain with an ominous storm behind it. The "table top" has an unusually long tapestry draped over it, as compared to the other legs which are perfect to the bottom of the table, as if it were a Volcano flowing over. Now when I look at one of the telltale ridges of this shadowed mountain behind Van Buren on the Google Earth map, and rotate it with north facing upwards, it takes the shape of the cavern featured in the picture perfectly, as if they were here, and the clues are embedded here and the story was passed down through the four books that Van Buren has on his desk??, with the map in his hand folded like a note, and the fires of the storm kindled from the opening of the mines, that can be seen cracking lightning on the house behind him.

I recognized this as timing of the era with shows like the Mystery of Oak Island, and the Davinci Codes, and of the mystery of what was known and lost to the Templars and their clues, as famous artists have given clues to a treasure trove that holds another mystery as well in their works of art, so these Stones are as historical as the Knights Templar Treasure is. Also in consideration of this great find is another great legend......from Nostradamus....Who's strange foretelling of the coming days are about a retrieval of 2 grand treasures lost, and the destruction of many other fine devastating wars to be fought.......how nice that he talked about two grand treasures, and that I have not only the trail of the gold mines of Peralta, but also the second trove location of the Money Pit Stones......NO **** I FOUND THE KEYSTONE>>>>>>ON ANOTHER ISLAND POINTED IN THE DIRECT LOCATION OF THE SEXTANT STONES HORIZON ON OAK ISLAND !!!! For another story of course after I nail this one down. The answer came from the clues on the stone drawing that features the word EGO engraved on it, with pointing fingers showing the location is Acadia.....but to find there were two treasures there in the area, one ancient, and one newer from Spanish as well.

Some time later after the federal reserve in the US was founded, there was a forced bankruptcy, a depression, a Business Plot by the grandfather of George Bush. There was a raiding party there years ago in the area by Prescott Bush and others, who were famed for stealing both Geronimo's skull and Pancho Villa's as well as were involved in fueling the Nazi's and even the "Business Plot" to take over the country.......there is also speculation that the reasoning behind the outlawing of the trove permits is to control the find till the day they want to perform "a miracle" after bankrupting the nations with their control over the economy......these Bonesman from Yale with their Jewish Financiers....so funny....

Its strange to think they outlawed the treasure trove rights in the Tonto recently when that area was a legacy of prospecting for the Goldfield Mines and many others in the past.....Maybe there is a reason for not uncovering something this large about a Royal Kingdom and its treasures that they fear, or giving the land of Cibola to the Apache......guessing they want to keep us all tourists. What I mean is that they might have known themselves, and be interested in finding out this info, so all ties that I find will be in the hands of the Apache and Spanish, leaving the US the contemplation of allowing mining there again for their true tourist goldmines!

This hack thinks that they may have found some or all of the trove partly because there is a completely illogical tourist map, with twisted interpretations, and the Peralta markings were easily interpreted by me in 30 minutes. So what many believe is some sort of theft of the land, the govt, and the banking structure that controls the ever fluctuating levels of gold stored in the depositories in the Federal Reserves, the Ft. Knox, and the rest of the economy, has discovered these treasures. Where does it all come from?......has to come from the earth somewhere, and they even tried to steal the Black Hills from the Lakotah for the gold and yellow cake uranium there, so my guess is they were on a raiding party at some point to these mines as well an that because of this squandering of the gold throughout the last fifty years since the "discovery" of the stones, they have done as much research with charts and maps in their CIA think tanks...Another compelling recent rumor is that they dont really have as much gold as they were claiming to have stored. Someone has been secreting the gold stockpiles to foreign nations, through "Foreign Trade"....they go there under this press release, but they really do business for the contractors that pay them the most in lobbies, and bribes with no-bid contracts offered to a favorite.......this has been used to drain the US of its Native Reserves to this day, and they use Fort Knox as a transfer point as they fill the vault with real gold, and then extract what they want, then leave fake ignots and other tungsten filled bars in place. They buy their way in then plant a "business plot" in each country through our reserves, and this alone causes the fluctuations in the economy, then we are fed the bullshit reports about the economy, based on volumes of "Private Investments" in a Public Marketplace.........this gold cannot be used for this reason.

The terrain in the area has some interesting shapes.....and one certain area underneath the "Bulldogs" takes the shape of the Cobollo De Santa Fe, at the base of the mountains, this is clearly seen from the outline itself. the horse is depicted on the stone as is the ridge line behind with the astrology of the time they went up there at 8am or 8pm. The starting point......with the description from placing the stone against the terrain and you will clearly see the land shaped like a pack mule. The rest of the clues read like clockwork. To follow the trail which has stacked stones along the way, and curves described as fitting both the numbers and letters on the horse, and on the trail stones as well. These curves in the trail, the mountains, and the three dots all line up to the trail stones with the exact features there in the terrain after getting to the heart of the Trove areas...There was a series of common clues on the stones that can easily be tracked to the areas.....and the heart stone has etchings that are numbered and coded words, which describe these locations of the magic. I have found almost every marking from Google Earth, and that didnt come around till 2006? so no wonder no one has been looking in the right place......everyone goes up the tourist trail from the massacre point....retracing the steps back through as if these maps were from the stash to the point of massacre??

Doesn't make sense......they wrote the stones when they were planning to leave, so they could stash some and return later if they had to....but they wouldnt have made the stones to make a trail back up from the massacre point......hardly anyone survived.

The Stone says he stopped north of the river, he says "This is Dangerous, Look For the Map, Look For the Heart", the heart of the Apache Thunder God .....But the R is missing

Trickery is built into the stones to disorient most a full 180 degrees.....The map stone can be read as the thicker and solid line being the base, and the top lighter line being the ridge line with the knife edge pointed down in a "dangerous" looking manner.........BUT.......the map must be read with the knife standing on its base, like the shape of the main Bulldog at the river's bend under the dam, and the knife has a line showing you have to go over that bulldog to the other side by following the trail, but the arching over line has the number 1 scribed into it at the start to tell you to go there first....on the Horse Stone the eye seems to be smiling a little, or is very sly looking, as if the horse is hiding something, and if you notice the word RIO appears twice on this stone. There is a random R on the Map Stones, and missing R on the Priest Stones where the word CORAZON is meant to be spelled. This helped to spawn the confusion, and with the knife stabbed into the ground, as men held the R as signifying RIO or salt river, in the place of the thicker lines, showing the dry river beds that came down the mountain, they all converged where they thought the massacre happened. If you look at the ranch area and gold mine town there by the dam, you will find the history of the area holds that there is an old spanish church ruin in the place right below the dam. With the "double cross" having been found with the smirking burro, we know the symbol was the church there where the small river and arrow are marked, and we were all fooled to looking elsewhere by the massacre grounds.

How funny this is the area that is called Peralta Canyon, so they all chase right up there and miss the real goldmine around to the Northwest by the Saguaro Dam. To most this obviously this is the RIO, the RIO they talked about being the old salt river, further around the bend, which had no dam then, but in reality it is the ridge line that has the R on it for the location of the Missing Heart of gold. So you are supposed to place the heart there in that vicinity on the ridge .....

.....as Waltz lived near McDowell Mountain to the immediate west so it would be real likely they came from that area and traveled back quickly after hiking up the ridge there to get what he needed and return with stealth......it is very convenient for a man back then through town and well traveled roads when the city was pretty new then.

Eldo are by chance Canadian?

 

[sgtfda]

I'm impressed with your research and can't wait to hear more. Be careful your giving too much away. Would you consider giving a talk at Dons camp this year. I sure that would be very interesting.

 

[Somero]

And your assbackwards interpretation of the Valley GOLD Fever I was talking about has nothing to do with your loss of loved one's or your dog

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I know you're going to get the "Valley Fever" REAL BAD !!!!! LOL

What misinterpretation?

so I would suggest you go play your game somewhere else since nobody is going to go and look for you and "let you know"

Ill play my game wherever I choose

dont attempt to turn my discovery into your complaints about how others dont cater to your misinterpretations, or you look like a total ****** giving orders here from the peanut gallery

Talk about misinterpretations and looking like a total *****
A suggestion is not "giving orders"

 

[Somero]

If I were you Eldon...I personally would not give anyone on this site any information of any real value...I personally would suggest that you treat them all like the mushrooms that they are...You know the old saying don't you"Keep them in the dark and feed them a bunch of B.S."...But this is just my personal opinion...I'm sure you know the one about opinions...Don't you

Ed T

Wow Ed T I would think that those of us who actually get out from behind the computer can't be mushrooms since its to dry with a lot of sun and don't have the stomach for B.S. but to each his own I guess.

 

[somehiker]

Eldo are by chance Canadian?

He could be, Frank, since we do have our fair share. But he claims to be from Vermont, so it's more likely he's one of yours....
You can learn a bit more by clicking on his profile and reading his posts on the other threads.

 

[deducer]

If I were you Eldon...I personally would not give anyone on this site any information of any real value...I personally would suggest that you treat them all like the mushrooms that they are...You know the old saying don't you"Keep them in the dark and feed them a bunch of B.S."...But this is just my personal opinion...I'm sure you know the one about opinions...Don't you

Ed T

Why are you having a conversation with yourself?

 

[cactusjumper]

Coronado never made it to the Superstitions. He passed to the east of the range.

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Eldo]

I'm impressed with your research and can't wait to hear more. Be careful your giving too much away. Would you consider giving a talk at Dons camp this year. I sure that would be very interesting.

What would be even more interesting is watching the Parks and Rec come up and tag all of those so called conquistadors with a big assed ticket and take their goods for their ransom.

The govt is the only worry.....wouldnt want to piss off the NSA and activate their "Treasure Map", would I

LOL...you guys are so funny.....

This and other treasures I have found in "Lightning" fast manners are surely set for only one glory of quest........

Stay thirsty my friends........I am (802) yes....

 

[Eldo]

It is time to ride like the lightnings
To carry the torch of freedom?

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I'd Say Its Time To Seek Refugio From This Storm

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

You all have history?

 

[Eldo]

You all have history?

You are right, there is a fine line that is ofter overlooked when describing History........


......some people from Vermont call it Udder Insanity

 

[Terry Soloman]

......some people from Vermont call it Udder Insanity

WAaaaaay too much chocolate milk! The udder dark milk!

 

[Eldo]

***UPDATE***

Apache Nation is convinced......"Very Compelling" were the exact words used.

They are in contact with their lawyers and will be arranging for a special Trove Permit and security of the area, after all legalities are finalized between the Apache, Kingdom of Spain, and the US Dept of Interior.

We are going boots on the ground sometime soon to check and confirm markings with map stones, then to get the big dig equipment moved in, and to begin in the excavating of these areas, using metal detectors and some other sensors to locate the stores if we cannot find these openings or if covered from the Peralta crew.

We are going to be using a very minimal impact team, and only have one small generator and light system, and maybe a single backhoe. We are flying it all in via heli.

If all goes well the gold returned to Spain, the mines to the Apache, and maybe we can open up a public picking mine for the Parks and Rec in the area, for something cool to remember the area by. There's still a few other mines no doubt. Would make the area something more than just a tubin' put-in and a ghost town.

Here's to the biggest and fastest find EVER .....30 minutes



Check that fresh hairstyle out......Old is Gold Baby !

 

[Springfield]

That's terrific news. The European Union will be grateful that Spain can shore up their treasury, the Apaches will be able to provide non-casino jobs to tribal members, and Arizona will get a new tourist attraction. Sweet.

 

[Eldo]

We are even setting up a Rez Bike Program, like what is created for numerous City Bike Programs, to use to ease burden instead of using the Cobollo De Santa Fe to buy new SUV's.

We are making sure that there are arrangements that will be in documented form, with a killer expose and tons of good press that emphasizes the quest.

I will get the Royal Quinto for sure. No legal heat yet.......(crossed fingers)