Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Apr 2, 2003
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Various Minelabs(5000, 2100, X-Terra 705, Equinox 800, Gold Monster), Falcon MD20, Tesoro Sand Shark, Gold Bug Pro, Makro Gold Racer.
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Do you love to chase the gold? Please join me--lots of gold hunting tips, stories of finds (successful and not), and prospecting poetry.

Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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63bkpkr,

I had an idea about using a Porta Power to pry that boulder of yours apart or maybe open it up a little. Maybe it would work? :dontknow: http://www.harborfreight.com/30-ton-hydraulic-short-body-ram-95981.html

I've been reading everyones correspondence and appreciate ya'll sharing your wealth of wisdom. :thumbsup:

If you didn't notice this is my first post. Great conversation fellas!
 

Very interesting tips. Thanks ;)
 

Outlaw JW,
Thank you for the Porta Power units thought! I am not certain if it could be used in this instance but maybe. This will be kept in the "saver box" for later consideration/use!

I am honored that your first post would be to me and with a good suggestion, way to go! See, you are a contributing member already! I do not think any of us "knew it all" when we started especially as we do not know it all right now but we enjoy sharing with others who have a real interest in "going out there" to play for awhile out amongst the best scenery ever made and in beautiful country (maybe that's the same thing said twice differently but you get the idea). Keep coming back as there's always something to learn from this site and folks are always sharing what they know..........63bkpkr
 

75 today/tommorrow but winter coming back on saturday???? Crazy weather this year but as long as I can suck gravel(and the water holds out) it's all good and tons a au 2 u 2 -John
 

Hi Hoser John,
I remember that many years ago I hiked into "my canyon" in February and yes the top of the sleeping bag was frosty in the morning but the sunshine melted that off by 11 AM or so. My interest in going out early this year is just what you have commented about, warm temps and only a small amount of snow and as long as that keeps up I will be out there in April though right now it just sounds Cold and here I am eating cold Oatmeal, brrrrrrrr!

I am so looking forward to being out in the mountains again, I just can not seem to get enough of being out there.......63bkpkr
 

:notworthy: 63 what a hoot,going out dredging again today but at 35 degrees right now .I'll wait for awhile as in the hills less 10 degree less sooooooo oatmeal for me too and then good to go. Gotta luv that stuff,eat my oates :laughing7: in the am and PB for lunch and good to go all day--even us old dogs!!! :headbang: tons a au 2 u 2-John
 

John,

Sounds like you've found the food of the dredging gods!

All the best out there,

Lanny
 

So John, what are the temps around the warmest time of day and what time is that? Oatmeal and I have been friends for a long time, lunch used to be three slices of salami on half a sourdough bun with two or three sliced cloves of garlic. Give the bun a hard squeeze so it would be down to an eatable size and have at it. The mosquitoes stopped landing on me after about a week on that diet.

Yesterday my mind flipped back to the 1970's when my backpacking partner and I dropped into this canyon and spent one day playing/hiking in the river. At one point we came across this hunk of bedrock that was sticking way up out of the water or maybe it was just a huge hunk of the cliff rock that had fallen in. Anyway the rock had some serious vertical cracks in it and we actually pulled some of it apart by hand. Now that I know there are gold nuggets in rock like that I just can not seem to recall where we were. I will keep working on it though, maybe more oatmeal will help or else more garlic or both, never had that "treat" and I think I will wait awhile till I do.

Have fun, be safe, hit it big..............63bkpkr
 

Those vertical cracks definitely trap the gold extremely well. Find that chunk of bedrock--search your memory banks until you get a hit.

All the best,

Lanny
 

63bkr lately around 1pm been about 72-75 BUT weather going winterish yet again as 5-6 days of storms lined up,solid clouds this am. Water has gone extremely cold as pins/needles in 5 minutes or so mandate cotton in rubber gloves. :icon_scratch: one crazy winter as nothing in line with 25 years of my records up here in Redding????? Creeks are LOWER right now than the END of last summer,now that's a nasty situation. Shasta/Trinity county creeks are not in good shape so far,just keeping fingers crossed and a hoping this series of storms drops the 6-10" expected as over 15" short of a normal year even. Luv that oatmeal,PBJ(honey too) as bookoo protein for energy and ez to fix. Just like mining,keep it simple and effective. Bundle up as here she comes-tons a au 2 u 2 -John
 

John,

My partner has been a die-hard fan of PB and oatmeal for as long as I've known him. It is easy to fix and it seems to stick with you for a long time as well. I'll tell him he has a kindred spirit in Cali.

Try not to get too cold. Here's some shots of warmer days to help you out.

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All the best,

Lanny
 

Lanny in AB said:
John,

My partner has been a die-hard fan of PB and oatmeal for as long as I've known him. It is easy to fix and it seems to stick with you for a long time as well. I'll tell him he has a kindred spirit in Cali.
Try not to get too cold.
All the best,
Lanny

PEANUTBUTTER
> Breakfast of Champions <

:wav: :wav:
 

Eagle,

So nice to hear from you again--where've you been?

All the best,

Lanny
 

Lanny in AB said:
Eagle,

So nice to hear from you again--where've you been?
All the best,
Lanny

Halito My Friend,

Where've I been? :laughing9:

Politics – Ron Paul!!
Alternate Fuels – Hydrogen, (Electrolysis), Hydrogen, (Chemical)
And, a lot of research into same. :read2:
Web Sales (Promotion) walkingeaglesolutions.c om
3 sterling rings, 1 large pendant, still working on a bracelet,
and of course, shaping and polishing opals, turquoise, tiger eye, etc.
Preparing and planting my little garden.
Answering a multitude of emails (and a number of pm’s)
Learning about and practicing as much as possible, infrared photography.
And, when I'm not busy, adding a few more lines to my next post. :dontknow: :laughing7:

Then, there’s the time I resent having to waste: Eating and Sleeping.
(Bless the man who invented Peanutbutter)!! :notworthy: :laughing7: :laughing7:
+ having to spend a little time working on my Ford Explorer. :help:

Trying to figure out how to come up with $5 or $600 so I can head
back up to the river for a couple of weeks and see if I can locate an
old "Spanish Treasure"! :BangHead:

I do take the time (not much though) to read your posts, plus 63bkpkr,
Hoser John, et al. (Love the photos you posted above) I wish you could
see all of the gold I see in that first one!! :laughing7:

A few more things, but I'll have to keep them to myself for now.

So briefly, I've been well occupied! :headbang:

Love and Respect,

Eagle
 

Lanny.....love those pictures of some beautiful country for sure. I eat a PB sandwich everyday for the past many years for lunch. Sticks with me better than a lot of others I've tried.

EagleDown........I like to read your posts as well as many others on this forum that offer advice and ideas. Glad to see you are still kicking and staying busier than you probably like to be. I too can see loads of gold in that 1st picture.

Thanks to both of you for some good information and entertaining posts......
Gold Nuggets :hello:
 

Eagle,

Thanks for the update. I've been very busy getting ready to move to another house--tons of work both ways.

You sound like one busy hombre, but you also sound centered and balanced in your life pursuits.

Stay safe my friend while you're out chasing the treasure.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Gold Nuggets said:
Lanny.....love those pictures of some beautiful country for sure. I eat a PB sandwich everyday for the past many years for lunch. Sticks with me better than a lot of others I've tried.

EagleDown........I like to read your posts as well as many others on this forum that offer advice and ideas. Glad to see you are still kicking and staying busier than you probably like to be. I too can see loads of gold in that 1st picture.

Thanks to both of you for some good information and entertaining posts......
Gold Nuggets :hello:

Gold nuggets,

Thanks for dropping in and thanks for you kind words.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Hi Lanny,
FYI, I've posted the pictures of my high banking equipment "to be" adventure over in the High Banking section, pretty colors.

63bkpkr
 

63bkpkr said:
Hi Lanny,
FYI, I've posted the pictures of my high banking equipment "to be" adventure over in the High Banking section, pretty colors.

63bkpkr

Herb,

You do indeed have some pretty colors on your equipment--maybe it will attract some bigger gold this season. :wink:

All the best.

Lanny
 

When detecting for gold nuggets in gold country, beware of ground noise. This can come from reddish or orange dirt, but it will be a broad signal (not sharp/focused in the center), and if you dig down in to the dirt, keeping your coil at the original height (don't lower it into the hole and chase the ground noise) as you sweep it across the dirt, the signal will not increase. Moreover, if you move the dirt around with your boot and the signal gets weaker--you've found ground mineralization that's setting your machine off.

Another ground noise perpetrator is charcoal/burned tree roots. For whatever reason they'll give off a signal as well, but not a sharp/focused signal. I spent lots of fruitless time chasing various ground noises until I figured out how to visually ID certain types of usual suspects when I'd get a signal from them. (Sometimes live tree roots will give a signal as well. I know a guy with a Gold Bug II, and he can even detect the salt on his hands on a hot day with that little coil Fisher puts out!!)

Having said all of the previous about ground noise, I must state that if you dig down into red/orange dirt that's producing a signal, and sweep at your original detecting height (the level you were originally detecting at before you dug), and the signal increases, get digging!

All the best,

Lanny
 

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