Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Apr 2, 2003
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Various Minelabs(5000, 2100, X-Terra 705, Equinox 800, Gold Monster), Falcon MD20, Tesoro Sand Shark, Gold Bug Pro, Makro Gold Racer.
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Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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Hello Lanny and all. :hello:

Well the first morning up on the claim I found 63bkpkr alive and well. He is camped at Sushidogs camp site on the claim and he says Hi to all.
Let me tell ya, 63bkpkr is one tuff cookie.

After I got my camp squared away I grabbed my MD (GB SE), a bucket, and some other tools and headed to this section of bedrock I wanted to check out.
I had to cross the river and that was no easy task, even as the water was low. Those dang rocks are slippery as snot, and trying to balance the md and bucket of tools was just so much fun.
I ended up leaving the bucket of tools in the middle of the river as I would come back and get it once I got the md across.
Well once I got the md across I started checking out this section of bedrock. (I will get the bucket of tools later.)
This section of bedrock started driving the MD crazy, sounding off 4-5 times every sweep back and forth. I tried all over this section with the same results. What ever it is- is every ware. I even tried the md in disc mode and it was giving a solid signal of 40-45 or 45-50. Same as my sample pc of gold I carry with me. Now the hand held would not sound off and a magnet would not stick.

Can anybody tell me what these brown spots might be in these pics??? :dontknow:

Hefty
 

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The first night, 63 and I had a little dinner and the weather changed quickly, but only rained for a little while. :o
 

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The second day was a complete bust for me :'(
Now the third day 63 and I decided to do a little rock moving.
All we found was an old hardware store that sold nuttin but square nails!!! :icon_scratch:
 

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:icon_thumleft: Well at least the forth day wasnt a bust.
As 63 and I continued to clean some of the bedrock just up from where the gold stud earing was found. Another crack in the bedrock was found :hello2:
That be 63bkpkr there playin in the dirt.
 

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Hi Hefty, Lanny and all. Great photos Hefty - that is a really good looking area you have there. Good to see 63bp looking fit still, moving rocks and getting gold, three nice looking pickers in that last shot.

Have no easy answer about the brown spots on those rocks, seems like it could be an iron deposit of some kind? Iron, depending on the form it takes will not always be noticeably magnetic. The density of the deposit affects this and the amount of other mineral mixed with it. Kind of like how half an ounce of fine gold wont make the detector squeal, but a one gram piece gets a great sound. An ordinary compass may give you the answer - if it is affected by being held close to this deposit - it is probably iron.

From the photos, you guys are working redeposited areas that have been previously worked, and successive floods have replaced the gold. In behind the biggest rocks submerged in a flood - inside bedrock u shapes that stick out into the river flow during floods - the first beach after a smooth straight section of river. Best of all for me, is drift diving downstream, with a mask and snorkel picking at deep underwater crevices and fanning small sand deposits off deep flat sections of bedrock.

Things are warming up very slowly here and I hope to get out and about soon. Good luck with it all guys, Nuggy
 

:icon_thumright: Thanks Nuggy
I will give the compass a try. Hope you can get out into the water soon.
As it is still warm up here, it wont be long before that changes.
Those boulders in the pics used to be covered with dirt, much easier to roll downhill now.
63bkpkr still movin, I could not get him to stop. :notworthy:
 

Nuggy--great to hear from you again. Were you able to wrestle any gold from the ground this season? If you have a few picture to post--I'd love to see them, even if they're more picture of your beautiful gold-country scenery.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Thanks Jacko!!

All the best,

Lanny
 

Hefty--lots of excellent photos you've shared. I love that gorgeous gold you found. Looks like sniping that bedrock is paying off. Have you ever considered getting an air system and sniping the bedrock underwater? Or, have you already tried that? Glad to see the "63 is still at is as well. Thanks for posting your adventures.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Sassy summer's gold!!

All the best,

Lanny

By the way--that super-handy little weighing/portioning/dispensing tray is made by a friend of mine--man it's slick when it comes to dumping gold into bottles. As well, when you need to dump any water out of the gold--it allows you to block the gold with your finger as the water runs out from under the gold--best little tray I've ever bought! (And no, I don't sell any, nor do I receive any compensation--it's just a great little tray.)
 

Hefty--as to your photos above,

Sometimes heavy concentrations of iron in the rock will make the detector sound off. If you have one of those extremely powerful super-magnets--see if you can break out some sections of the hot bedrock with a chisel and see if the samples will jump to the super-magnet (a regular magnet won't be strong enough to do the trick). If they jump, you've got a heavy iron concentration that's causing your problem. Let me know what happens.

By the way--which detector were you using?

All the best,

Lanny
 

Great lookin gold you got there! U been busy!! :notworthy:

Lanny the gold bug se was what i am using. 63 finally got his md back and tested that area of bedrock and he came back with iron also. Lots of it, in small spots all over that bedrock.

But next time up, maybe this weekend i will chisel out a pc and bring it home and post it here.

You done minin for the year?

Hefty
 

Hefty,

Gettin' there, but I'll still get out a couple of times before the snow flies, I hope. I still want to do some more detecting, and maybe some low water sniping.

Keep me posted on how things are going at your claim.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Hi Lanny,
Talk about nice looking gold, in sizes as well as overall quantity. Are you willing to share the method or methods used to procure those "sassy nuggets"?

We've a heavy storm coming in about tuesday through wed night, snow down to 5500'. Then the next day I'm to meet up with Hefty at his claim, he's promised steaks and baked potatoes so I Will be there as long as he will be as well.

My pictures of the gold I've found this year are a joke as compared to yours but once I can download the pictures off the camera I will post them.

May your good luck/knowledgeable searching continue to hold!! 63bkpkr
 

63--Good to hear from you again. To tell the tale of the methods used, some dredging, some metal detecting, and some panning. That's it--nothing super special.

Any gold you find is good gold--I'd love to see your shots of the magnificent metal.

I hope the snow doesn't shut you down yet. The snow in the mountains around the claims here hasn't been a factor yet.

I might float the river this next time out and see if I can't snipe some lazy gold that's hung itself up on some bedrock, now that it's closer to the surface, due to the lower seasonal water.

All the best,

Lanny
 

No problem River Runner--thanks for the visit, and,

All the best,

Lanny
 

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