Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Do you love to chase the gold? Please join me--lots of gold hunting tips, stories of finds (successful and not), and prospecting poetry.

Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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Thanks so much Lanny! Much appreciated.....I will peep it out after this post....I have been a little side tracked lately by a project I have been working on, but I always LQQK forward to reading the posts here....SushiDog
 

Hi all :hello:
Lanny, Nuggy, Sushi Im back!!!
Lanny i will take those size Ted Nugents all day long.

Ok stories and pics will be coming asap. :notworthy:

Hefty
 

Hmmmm? Hefty? I hope all went well because I was expecting you back this morning, or at the latest, this afternoon....give me a call when you are rested up....SushiDog
 

Hefty1 said:
Hi all :hello:
Lanny, Nuggy, Sushi Im back!!!
Lanny i will take those size Ted Nugents all day long.

Ok stories and pics will be coming asap. :notworthy:

Hefty

All right Hefty--let's see those pictures and have a gander at your story. I want to know what you've been up to lately at the claim.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Yeah Hefty....let's get the lead out of your rear end and share something with us! (Big Smile!)
 

MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND ADVENTURE OF HEFTY & SUSHIDOG


Well let’s see, where do I start?
Ok Fri morning, I have my good ole 79 GMC pickup all packed up and ready to go pick up Sushi about 7am, get him all loaded up, and were off. A couple of old boys to go play in them ther hills.
The drive up was uneventful, and as we got to our parking spot, there was this truck with a camper on it from Texas. And it had dredge pontoons mounted on top. I thought this was strange as there is no dredging allowed in Cal, right now.

Ok let me get my backpack loaded up, as I usually only pack what is necessity for the day, but this trip I have an extra item I need to pack in. A wheelbarrow wheel. (flat less one) They are not that heavy but any extra weight is too much for this hike. As for this hike is about a mile in from the road, and right off the road the trail has two parts that are brutal. UPHILL!!! Then flat for a bit, then UPHILL!!! Again. KILLER HILLS!!! Then downhill a bit, through the grapevines, then pretty much flat from there.

Let me explain the reason for the wheelbarrow wheel.
The previous trip into the claim Sushidog and I went to check on my equipment to see if it had survived high water runoff that we had from all the rain and snow that pounded this area.

1st pic
Now how did that log get up there??? Wasn’t there before. That’s high water!!!
That is the” House Rock “ out in the middle of this river.

My equipment had survived the high water but, the first time in 20-25 years of keeping my equipment stored in the hills, it did not survive the two legged varmints that stole some of my equipment and really trashed the place.

4th pic,
Wasn’t it nice of them to leave the hardware there neatly on this flat rock right in plane sight for me to see.

Rest of pics.
So that is what I have to look forward to when we get done with this brutal trail.
Oh and along the way I have to stop and check for those LITTLE vampire hitch hikers. With all the new growth I was covered with them. DEET doesn’t work with these dogs, they feed on it.

Ahhhhhh we finally make it to camp, tired and sweaty, but its not hot out, it was kind of overcast. After a little rest I grab that wheelbarrow wheel to put it on so I can move some sand to put under my tent we were going to set up. DAMM!!! I didn’t get the right shaft size. I thought they were all standard? So much for the soft sand under my tent.
I just moved most of the larger cobbles out of the way and laid down a used tarp and we put the tent up. Ok for the rain cover…..where’s the rain cover??? Oh great is that it over there, that pc that looks all tore up? Yup that’s it. Ok I got another tarp out in the truck, I will get it in the morning. Nothing wrong with sleeping under the stars right. Besides I had the screen roof.
In the mean time when I didn’t need his help, Sushidog was busy building the fire pit. And what a fire pit it is. It has double grills, one on each side with a two foot wall almost all the way around it. Two places to sit on the open side, Great fire pit Sushidog!!!

I will continue this story.

Hefty
 

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Great story and pics Hefty! Starting at around 3 o'clock on Saturday afternoon, the rain started to come down, and it really came down a few hours later! We kept a fire going, and Hefty improvised a small shelter over us, and part of the fire....the tarp that Hefty put over his tent for a roof had holes in it, so his place was soaked....at around 7:30 p.m., I told Hefty that I had about enough of the rain, and told him that I was going to my tent....I really didn't want to since it was still too early, but a little respite from the rain would have been welcome....I also thought that I would invite Hefty to stay at my small place if he wanted a dry sleep...
I got inside my tent and everything on the floor was wet....my sleeping bag was touching the inside walls of the tent, as with some other items as well....including my pillow....well....so much for inviting Hefty over for a sleep over, but he didn't know about the status of inside my tent....the rascal probably thought I was dry and comfy and toasty while he was wet, cold and miserable....
So....I knew it was going to be a long.....cold....miserable night.....and it was....it turned out to be the longest 12 hours of my recent life...
Oh well....
With respect to the pic featuring "Big Rock," wherein there is a huge log perched on top.....well....it is just a spectacular site to say the least! The water that came through that river to deposit that huge log on top was mind-boggling!!! This log is huge and heavy, and "Big Rock" is no small pebble in this river....the force it took to place that log up there can't be computed by this little mind....
***Hey Bkpkr63! Sorry I missed you at the claim this last time....it would have been a pleasure to meet the "'Ol Man" (smile)...SushiDog
 

Thanks for the stories guys, ah the delights of camping out lol ! Looks like a really great place you guys have there, for your adventures. Wish it was a little closer, I'd come for a visit.
Had a few wet nights similar to the one you experienced, then i discovered the delights of the air mattress and tunnel type - double skin tents.
You can also shove a lot of 6 inch long conifer branch tips into the ground, about 2 inches apart with the growing tips sticking up, makes a comfortable bed for a night or two. We have light, cheap, blue colored tarps here that can be slung up to help keep the rain off, I usually have a few of them at any camp site.

Real glad we don't have any ticks or snakes in New Zealand, but the two legged varmints than destroy and steal things are here too unfortunately. Glad you guys have hooked up with each other and backpacker 63. Once the 3 of you have ironed out the campsite issues, we might start seeing some gold pictures! Any river that can put a log up on a big rock like that, will be moving and re-depositing it's gold.
Keen to hear the rest of the story. Nuggy
 

Well after alot of clean up and going through all that was left that was still usable. I got it looking pretty good.
Yea Nuggy, I dont camp anymore without an air mattress. :notworthy: One of the weird things that those varmits took was my battery air pump of my air mattress, not the mattress, the air pump :dontknow: :laughing9: I brought my rechargeble one in with me, Thank god they didnt mess up the air mattress.

Hefty
 

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Saturday morning after some :coffee2:i went back out to the truck, hauling that wheelbarrow wheel back out :tongue3:
I ran into a guy on the road that told me GPAA had just pick up the claim right below the parking spot. That's the reason for that Texas truck with the pontoons. ::)
Great just what we needed, them taking the few parking spots there. :nono:
Well time to get rid of that wheel and grab the tarp i had packed thurs, and the rest of the supplies needed for the weekend and head back in. :walk:
As you all ready know :icon_scratch: yea i had packed the wrong tarp :BangHead:
We put it on the tent anyways, as something is better than nothing.
Yea Sat, afternoon it started raining cats and dogs. After going to bed, dodging the drips from my roof, it finally stopped sometime early sunday morning.
Sunday was just for more clean up and drying things out.
Well camp was set up :icon_thumleft:
The next weekend my brother and i went in to play and try out a drop sluice i whipped together.
As those varmits had taking my 4 inch dredge sluice box that i had converted into a highbanker.
Took the pump of the engine also. And alot of production things, nothing to work with left.
Got a little color with it, but probably lost alot as those drop riffles filled up to fast

Hefty
 

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Yup 63bkpkr was already there when my brother and i went up. 63 and i were talking before i had gone up as he was already in the area. I told him he was more than welcome to come stay and play on the claim. I had joked with him about the trail and the dog size ticks along the trail.
Well to my surprise after the two hills up and the grapevines the trail looked like a plowed freeway!
63 had weedwacked the rest of the trail to camp and even some of the area around camp.

I could not thank him enough for doing that. THANKS AGAIN 63!!!

We had a great weekend, 63 had a couple of beers with us around the fire at night, shared our steaks with him sat, night. Lots of good stories, metal detecting with 63 was fun but only finding the reminders of the past.
Need to get across the river where there is alot of bedrock to detect. But the water is still roarin.

Hefty
 

Hefty--you guys went way over the legal limit for fun! Well done. Nothin' else in the world like it. Great pictures too. Thanks for taking the time to post them, and for taking the time to write up your adventures. Keep them coming.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Thanks Lanny :notworthy:
Yea now that the clean up is done, and camp is set.
I can get down to rebuilding a highbanker, get to the inside of that rock L-wall.
Already got a new 2 inch pump and motor to get water there.
Still lookin for a big sluice box.

Thats where the real fun is!!!

Hefty
 

Well, here again, I'm not being notified of posts in your thread.

Glad I decided to check it out. It seems a lot has been going on. Hey Hefty1, maybe some well placed bear traps?? It seems like you just can't get away from the low-lifes, no matter where you go. I spent years as a cop because I couldn't stand thieves. Unfortunately, it seems society turned them out faster than I could arrest them. :headbang: Perhaps one day things will get better, but I don't think I can hold my breath that long. :laughing7: :laughing7:

Hokay, it seems like everyone's doing well, now all I have to do is wait for Lanny to post some more photos of sassy nuggets he's found with his new toy. :laughing7:

Eagle
 

Hi All,
It was good camping with Hefty & His Bro as the company was appreciated. The fire pit area needs to be leveled but other than that the time spent around it was a pleasure. I'd managed to hurt a tendon in my right elbow so I did not do a lot with the detector especially the 8 x 14 coil. I was bored so weed whacking the trail to Hefty's claim was good for me though I could have done without the tick that embedeed itself into my back.

I've been up here in the hill country since early June and Still the snow persists! This morning I was up at 6500' and the jeep road to the place I want to get into is under 5' of Frozen Snow. Maybe by the end of July it will be open. I've had an offer to work in a placer mine tunnel and unless I find something more exciting I'm going to do it for the experience. In this neck of the woods one can hear dynamite explosions going off, in tunnels I'd guess, and then just before sundown once I heard a machine gun fire several full auto bursts. So much for this being CA!

Yesterday I returned from a trail finding mission in Steep Burned Forest back country. Nasty hiking with all the obstructions AND the steep hills! In one location, a gully between hills, I noted there were round rocks embeded into a mineralization layer that had been uncovered by erosion. I pulled out my GMT with the standard coil and swept it over the area. The initial reading was reduce Gain. With that done I swept again and received the bar graph up to 50%, this should be a good target. I checked and checked but no target so I swept the area again, still a signal. I thought a moment and then adjusted the SAT to max, reground balanced and swept the area again. This time I had an audible signal but not a true zip zip and no bar graph. I dropped my poker chip with gold sample glued to it down on top of the signal, swept, got a true zip zip and the bar graph was there. So even over a hot rock the GMT can be setup to push its presence into the back while allowing a true signal to come through.

Sushiedog, IF you and I are along when Hefty brings in his new gadget we could compare notes and our machines operations.

So now I'm headed out to another claim to see just how far I can get in and if snow still obsturcts the road possibly I will just camp out and hike the hills with the GMT.

More later, 63bkpkr
 

A little fun over the last weekend. :headbang:
The gold found in the hole on bedrock and using my homemade drop sluice running at more of an angle and faster water.
Last pic,
The finds metal detecting.

Hefty
 

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Hi Hefty, great photos - looks like a reasonable amount of gold too - good times. :hello: Good to see you guys are getting the gold.
Your metal detector finds look much like the stuff I found when I last went out - only mine were rustier :tongue3:

Holes like that are quite a chore to clean out when they stay wet - it's usually worth bailing them out dry if possible - that way it's easier to see and scrape up the last bit of grit - that's often quite a rich bit. Sometimes a small crevice is found at the bottom of the hole too - even more good stuff. I used to throw most of the water out with the pan then use my thermos cup and even the teaspoon!

Thanks for sharing your fun. Nuggy
 

Yea Nuggy
Got the water down as far as i could, but then seeps back in slowly.
Have to wait for the river to go down a little more. :icon_thumleft:

Hefty
 

Re: Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . . and selling a claim

Hi Lanny,
I submitted a post on Selling a Mining Claim under Dredging & High Banking about Selling a Gold Claim and I was wondering if you would be able to shed some light on honest & reliable folks to contact about the sale of this claim?? Any and all inputs would be appreciated.

Regards, 63bkpkr
 

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