Ancient ?

Now why would anyone want to help such an ungrateful, self serving, manipulative, bunch of conniving pirates? :)

Just because I like you DTTH, I will post something that the "experts" probably won't share:

https://books.google.com/books?id=R...B2zg9UOanbm9oNmmiGw&ci=143,656,688,644&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=R...698#v=onepage&q=black hand petroglyph&f=false
 

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bob632 said:
Now why would anyone want to help such an ungrateful, self serving, manipulative, bunch of conniving pirates? :)

Just because I like you DTTH, I will post something that the "experts" probably won't share:

https://books.google.com/books?id=RkZBAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA698&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U1FKmIlpj2B2zg9UOanbm9oNmmiGw&ci=143%2C656%2C688%2C644&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=R...698#v=onepage&q=black hand petroglyph&f=false
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well you would want to help them, to show that they are ungrateful , self serving , manipulating , bunch of conniving pirates . they wont be able to change, unless you help them out, by telling them. Its good of you bob632 to want to still try and help them out.

Man, I like that black hand link, Iam gonna half to go and read that. Thanks.
 

Hi Bob, pm me the black hand please. I'm always open to others interpretations.
 

No, the black hand was on a rock in Arizona. They just happened to come across it.

A couple of them actually.

Take a look at that link I posted and then have a look at the "peralta" stone map.

those guys better step on it, they are about to have a WHOLE lot of company.

that symbol somebody thought was a mountain peak :

https://books.google.com/books?id=N...rBitJRukhfqb1U4m2Cg&ci=571,617,270,168&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=N...A58-IA1#v=onepage&q=apache petroglyph&f=false

It's not a mountain or a hill.......it's a crossing.

and as for your black and red hands, a warrior put a red hand from his own blood on his horse to let his tribe know he died in battle at the hand of an enemy, black was when they had killed an enemy.

since I don't know who actually put the signs there or how old they are there is one more possibility, since they match up with the colors for the cardinal directions they could be giving direction. Either way black or red means somebody died.

https://books.google.com/books?id=B...Ng1jBFaxhsbC-blNIpJ4A&ci=80,91,851,641&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=B...02#v=onepage&q=black hand on the wall&f=false

As far as I'm concerned the lost Dutchman goes to whoever finds it.......good luck. :)

one more thing, if you happen to find a stone face, particularly one with only one eye...... you better be looking around the area real close.
 

dtth, if the nugget/mine-stone is real and heart with small lobes its related to a mine (books say) plus turtle
.. its a monument with direction & distance to a mine?

Heart + turtle-head looks in same direction and #7(long arm) to turtle? or tell other thing
.. do not cling to one direction, maybe "V" i draw not exist, check it, you are there im not
 

Alot of good things you pointed out Widomanmx. Even though i have been right there, i cant say, i dont have the knowledge. We are lucky to have some guys on here that do, and they post some of there thoughts. which iam grateful for. But I will say,from being there,they did some major stone work to pay tribute to that little nugget, that sure looks to me what they were meaning. I just dont find that mineral here either. They hold different things dear to there heart then we do (whoever they are?).
 

Thanks bob632, now i understand the hand print,and color. Now i remember seeing it in movies on a Indians horse buttocks .And thanks for the other info. and how you know they better get on it,before someone else in the know, yanks it out from under them. Great info. again, thats not common to find.Thanks.
 

Who says it hasn't been found?

what I posted wasn't enough to make you people realize that some "amateurs" here can read those maps?

Do yourself a favor DTTH, ditch these people and their "spanish' nonsense, sit up on a hill and have a good look around, you'll find what you're looking for.

You'll notice that the smart ones have kept their mouth shut, we still have some slow learners. :)
 

Now before I get banned again (I'm sure it's coming......just mention selling your gold off) :) I'll try and post a few things:

https://books.google.com/books?id=4...qESFgOzYsYSj_IUBRpA&ci=112,518,822,838&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=4...PA125#v=onepage&q=spanish mine corner&f=false

Heaven forbid I use google books, everybody knows the only real treasure stuff comes from those fantasy treasure hunting books........never from historical relations from people who's only motive was to teach some historical facts.


your sacred nugget is a curiosity, not having found it myself I can only speculate, but I have seen similar and I do know what it is for, and I might even let all of you know what it is.

at the risk of sounding like the "class clown" as I've been called here I'm still waiting for that apology :laughing7:
 

bob632 said:
Now before I get banned again (I'm sure it's coming......just mention selling your gold off) :) I'll try and post a few things:

https://books.google.com/books?id=4lQYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA125&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U3UFfY9SKfqESFgOzYsYSj_IUBRpA&ci=112%2C518%2C822%2C838&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=4...PA125#v=onepage&q=spanish mine corner&f=false

Heaven forbid I use google books, everybody knows the only real treasure stuff comes from those fantasy treasure hunting books........never from historical relations from people who's only motive was to teach some historical facts.


your sacred nugget is a curiosity, not having found it myself I can only speculate, but I have seen similar and I do know what it is for, and I might even let all of you know what it is.

at the risk of sounding like the "class clown" as I've been called here I'm still waiting for that apology :laughing7:
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Iam hanging on the edge of my chair, waiting to see if your gonna tell me about the scared nugget.
 

bob632 said:
Here's something......for you "clowns"


https://books.google.com/books?id=Y9gYAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA399&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U0I4gsjNKIJzX0yY8cg321y3oxlBQ&ci=64%2C123%2C854%2C1353&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=Y...nt&pg=PA399#v=onepage&q=peralta grant&f=false


Maybe you can stop wandering all over if you have a better Idea of where you are supposed be looking.
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Thats how i have to try and learn, bob632. I figure if I wander around enough, maybe things will start falling in place for me. I do see things on the mountain sides,but most of those stones,i cant move myself, unless there's some secret fulcrum point i dont see.
 

I think my next wandering, is going to be at a Templar site. Not sure how iam gonna work the photos on here, or even if i should. maybe ill post them in a private album. I guarantee they got it figured out. Showing that stuff is like showing gold and silver bars.

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Been wandering around signs for years, never found anything but rattlesnakes. Love the geology, the views, the trails. If they had 60 men and decided to bury something, do I really have any chance of finding much. While raw ore has been found, no stone tools, armor, anything worked metal like a cooking pot has been found. Now there has been things in solid rock, but a hammer and chisel wouldn't make a dent. Tried a concrete drill and could not get to the signal. Lots of moved dirt, old shrines, foundations, but no gold bars. Not even a reale. Been to real sites, old mines, and think you all are chasing ghost. Bob has it right. You could be standing on a cache and not even know it lol. But good reading.
 

hey dog i enjoy looking at all your pictures, and reading all the coments, just was looking at the snake picture and just at the top of the snakes head slitely to the right is that a number 7 carved on the stone saksall 1935
 

There's stuff to be found out there alright.

the problem is when people think there's money involved they get all weird and selfish........avoid them they're easy to spot out.....they try and manipulate people and twist the truth.


your scared nugget, if it is what it looks like, looks like a sample left for a mine inspector. there was a certain period of time when they did that stuff for tax purposes.

now for some fun stuff.

years ago on a forum far far away I posted picture of a monument that looked remarkably like this thing:

https://books.google.com/books?id=5...fXKBp41Y6NcjuTOj7Bw&ci=77,183,876,1257&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=5...epage&q=sacred stone effigies arizona&f=false


what is it?


it's the answer to what all of you are looking for, good luck.
 

saksall1935 said:
hey dog i enjoy looking at all your pictures, and reading all the coments, just was looking at the snake picture and just at the top of the snakes head slitely to the right is that a number 7 carved on the stone saksall 1935
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Is this the #7, saksall1935 ?View attachment 1134109
 

bob632 said:
There's stuff to be found out there alright.

the problem is when people think there's money involved they get all weird and selfish........avoid them they're easy to spot out.....they try and manipulate people and twist the truth.


your scared nugget, if it is what it looks like, looks like a sample left for a mine inspector. there was a certain period of time when they did that stuff for tax purposes.

now for some fun stuff.

years ago on a forum far far away I posted picture of a monument that looked remarkably like this thing:

https://books.google.com/books?id=5lkDwfhwXbYC&pg=PA215&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2x08DgOMdfXKBp41Y6NcjuTOj7Bw&ci=77%2C183%2C876%2C1257&edge=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=5...epage&q=sacred stone effigies arizona&f=false


what is it?


it's the answer to what all of you are looking for, good luck.
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Thanks for that info. on the nugget,bob632, it much appreciated .
 

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