After 15th Episode of Season 12.... Still any believers...?

[Limitool]

That's true,

But you see why/how it might have been found, yet no one has heard about it.

I get your point but don't agree. If it amounted to much surly more details would have been recorded or shared to verify it. I just don't buy anything was ever buried. Let alone 100'+ deep.

What prompted the boys to dig...?
Why did others follow up...?
Why do they continue today...?

Who said something of value was buried 100+ feet deep...?

 

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[n2mini]

The first 3 questions have all been answered basicly by the same answer. Impression in ground, possibly a block n tackle hanging in tree. Once digging they found the platforms and the rest is history.
4th question. Well no one did, but we know someone had a plan to come to area to bury it in a deep pit.

 

[KYgotGOLD]

What’s a new season playing on something?

 

[Carl-NC]

The first 3 questions have all been answered basicly by the same answer. Impression in ground, possibly a block n tackle hanging in tree. Once digging they found the platforms and the rest is history.
4th question. Well no one did, but we know someone had a plan to come to area to bury it in a deep pit.

The block & tackle is a later embellishment to the story. The story is variously told as a depression in the ground next to an oak tree

1. with a limb over the depression including a block & tackle
2. with a limb over the depression having marks as if it once had a block & tackle
3. with a limb that had been cut off, as if to hide evidence of a block & tackle

Honestly, we're not even sure there was an oak tree there.

Likewise, the platforms "every 10 feet" is also an embellishment. It is also told as "they found a layer of logs at 10 feet" and that probably morphed into every 10 feet. Most likely, the kids (or teens or young men, take your pick) would not have dug beyond 10-20 feet as that is a very deep hole and no reasonable treasure would be deeper than that. Reality is, if these 3 guys saw a depression and dug a hole, there is zero evidence anything was found. If they had found treasure, it's unlikely it would be the only part of the story that didn't get out.

Finally, there is no reliable evidence anyone had a plan to bury anything there. The Duc d'Anville log has no reliable provenance. It just showed up one day. I'll leave that for another thread.

 

[n2mini]

Until there is factual evidence to refute the original story it is all we have to go on. It's your opinion, that maybe there wasn't an oak tree there. Your opinion the platforms weren't all there. See how this goes. Injecting your opinions into the story.

 

[Limitool]

Until there is factual evidence to refute the original story it is all we have to go on. It's your opinion, that maybe there wasn't an oak tree there. Your opinion the platforms weren't all there. See how this goes. Injecting your opinions into the story.

The opinion's mostly come from lack of any evidence that platforms were ever present just as the stone.

Believers want the "original story" to be proven wrong... And thus far that's all that's happened.

Non-believers what the "original story" to be proven right... And thus far that's been an impossibility after 200+ years. After 200+ years of failure that leads to a lot of negative opinions rightfully so.

 

[Carl-NC]

Until there is factual evidence to refute the original story it is all we have to go on.

There is no "original story." It's all a mish-mash of verbal traditions, absolutely none of it reliable.

 

[BennyV]

The opinion's mostly come from lack of any evidence that platforms were ever present just as the stone.

Believers want the "original story" to be proven wrong... And thus far that's all that's happened.

Non-believers what the "original story" to be proven right... And thus far that's been an impossibility after 200+ years. After 200+ years of failure that leads to a lot of negative opinions rightfully so.

Seek help.

 

[Limitool]

Seek help.
I must say for a group that hates on the show so much we have a minimum of 3 threads going at once on the new posts page.

There are more than a few on here with a psychotic hatred and obsession. They should really seek some help from a licensed medical professional. If they only took that negative energy and funneled it into something positive.

Do you somehow believe that non-believers of something of value buried on Oak Island have a "psychotic hatred / obsession"...? What would lead you to believe that if so..? Are you suggesting that only believers of buried treasure should respond to the shows presentations. Non-believers watch to see what they'll repeat over and over and what new twist will be presented and followed.

Maybe if your a O.I. believer and are awaiting the next episode to see if they find something of value after 200+ years you might want to see a non-licensed medical non-professional.

Sir... it's just a made for TV show. Just like Finding Bigfoot, Ancient Aliens and Blind Frog Ranch. It is nothing more and/or less. Hell I even think the Wizard of Oz is fake (oh my!). Maybe start a thread of your own for ONLY BELIEVERS and get your group therapy going. All 2 or 3 of you can comfort each other.

 

[n2mini]

We all know there is no way to prove the platforms, block n tackle, or even an oak tree, was there. Just as you can't prove they weren't. So why even ask.

 

[Limitool]

We all know there is no way to prove the platforms, block n tackle, or even an oak tree, was there. Just as you can't prove they weren't. So why even ask.

I for one never asked for proof of platforms, block n tackle or the tree.

"So why even ask"... Maybe your referencing something else perhaps...?

 

[TruthbeTold]

Seek help.

Yet again with jabs at posters.

Obviously nothing factual to add to the thread.

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[n2mini]

I for one never asked for proof of platforms, block n tackle or the tree.

"So why even ask"... Maybe your referencing something else perhaps...?

But you did say: The opinion's mostly come from lack of any evidence that platforms were ever present just as the stone.

 

[Limitool]

But you did say: The opinion's mostly come from lack of any evidence that platforms were ever present just as the stone.

Yes. Negative opinions not supporting something of value buried always come from lack of evidence or reliable solid documentation. This includes everything. Believers want stories proven wrong and non-believers want them proven right.

 

[n2mini]

So now we've moved on from the platforms I guess. Who in their right mind fully documents hiding a treasure. It's kept a secret for a select few to retrive it at some point. Ships log isn't normally published for all to see as it is happening. The plan is to document it for their select few to know how to get back and retrive it. Basicly becomes a treasure map.

 

[n2mini]

Whatever the original story is, is the starting point. Has to be discredited with facts not opinions. No one can discredit the 3 guys digging, why they dug. Atleast not with facts.

 

[Limitool]

Whatever the original story is, is the starting point. Has to be discredited with facts not opinions. No one can discredit the 3 guys digging, why they dug. Atleast not with facts.

See that's the difference between "believers" and non-believers. Believers want the original story to be discredited with facts as you say. Non-believers wonder why believers do with the absent of facts.

You'd like non-believers to discredit something with facts that they don't believe ever existed. What facts might exist except for 200+ years of failed digging in support of non-believers...? What known facts after 200+ years of digging is anyone hanging onto? Can anyone say if the 3 guys dug with facts...? O.I. is just full of stories and no facts of something of value buried 100'+ deep.

 

[n2mini]

That's what I've been saying. No way for either side to prove anything now. So take the story as it's told. It just might be true. No way to disprove it. Just because you haven't heard of a treasure being found doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[Carl-NC]

We all know there is no way to prove the platforms, block n tackle, or even an oak tree, was there. Just as you can't prove they weren't. So why even ask.

I wasn't asking anything, I was responding to post #122 where you seem to imply certain things happened. Problem is, there is not a single aspect of the origin story that is rooted in fact. Not a single element comes from eyewitnesses and therefore not a single element is reliable. You're right, I can't disprove it any more than you can prove it, so the proper approach is to consider the preponderance of evidence. 225 years of nothing suggests that the whole legend is a self-perpetuating fantasy.

 

[n2mini]

I only imply what info is already out there and no one has been able to disprove it so we take it as the basis of starting all this. So you think 1 person did all the digging, and made up all the stories we have EVER heard. Of course there were eye witnesses. Three guys started the dig. Onslow company came in behind them with a team of people... No telling how many others might have come to take a look and or work on site once Onslow Company started their part...