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Again, Pike's Peak GOLD RUSH! 1858...
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The clipping is referencing times way before 1858.
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You should read Pike's Journals. The author of that article is saying that the gold was found near South Park because that is where the Journal says they were camping when Pursley was with the Indians but if you read deeper you will find as I did it was on the opposite side of Pike's Peak from Cripple Creek.
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I like the part where it says, "Despite late historians, who assert that previous to 1843 there were no evidence..." Sometimes the "experts" are too smart for their own good.
It also says that Pursley showed Pike gold from where the Mexicans and Spaniards had sunk shafts. I like that part because someone on here was trying to say it was just a little placer gold.
Anyway, it shows mining in the area much earlier than some want to believe.
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Oh...? WHEN...?
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1818-1822...?
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I provided a verified source of gold in New Mexico during the period in another thread: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/beale-codes/501836-mines-mines-more-mines.html#post4977272 Granted, it would require a directional change in the original telling of the tale, for whatever reason (deception?).
Now, for those who haven't seen the following recent thread, here's some powerful speculation about gold in the alleged Beale area north of Santa Fe that has some factual basis to begin with, and a lot of circumstantial evidence that comes later. Like all "treasure legends" (including the Beale tale of course), it's unproven.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...easure-mountain-co-lost-frenchmen-s-gold.html
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Actually Rebel KGC if Pursley showed Pike the gold and said that there were shafts and mines that would have been around 1806 long before 1817 or 1822.
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Absolutely.
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Captain Thomas Beale of New Orleans May have found that gold .
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And...?
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Well you asked if it was around the time of the Beale Treasure? I was only replying that it was over a decade earlier than the Beale Treasure.
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OK, you reckon that is where Beale & Associates REALLY went...? An OLD Spanish Mine...?
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No I believe they found a virgin vein of gold with silver also or they robbed it from the Spanish. About like the Victorio Peaks Cache-------$Billions.
If the two coins I found came from the Beale Treasure then the treasure is in coins. It is amazing how they could give the weight of the gold and silver on each trip and the amount exchanged for jewelry. There was a man that traded with Sante Fe bringing his Spanish coins (thousands) was robbed near Wichita the men were caught and hanged but the money was never recovered. I believe his name was Chavez or something like that.
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You found coins ? Awesome. Sorry to sidetrack. Santa Fe keeps coming up. Is it a coincidence that Justintime has found Fe inscribed in a rock ? He claims it to mean Iron for the iron pots. I keep connecting the two in my head.
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FACTS: 3-4 IRON Ore Mines were in the Iron Mine Hollow (MP 96.3, Elevation: 2364) in Roanoke County, WEST of Blue Ridge Parkway, south of the Peaks of Otter; @ 15 miles WEST of Montvale, Va. (formerly known as Buford's/Bufordsville). Near Villamont, Va. (formerly known as IRONVILLE). Fe, Fe, Fe!!! HH! Good Luck!You found coins ? Awesome. Sorry to sidetrack. Santa Fe keeps coming up. Is it a coincidence that Justintime has found Fe inscribed in a rock ? He claims it to mean Iron for the iron pots. I keep connecting the two in my head.
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FACTS: 3-4 IRON Ore Mines were in the Iron Mine Hollow (MP 96.3, Elevation: 2364) in Roanoke County, WEST of Blue Ridge Parkway, south of the Peaks of Otter; @ 15 miles WEST of Montvale, Va. (formerly known as Buford's/Bufordsville). Near Villamont, Va. (formerly known as IRONVILLE). Fe, Fe, Fe!!! HH! Good Luck!
I have a 24 minute map of all the iron mines and some copper mines. There were hundreds of iron mines in that area. As far as "Fe" being found it could mean iron and it could also be short for "feet" or the last two letters could be worn off. Also could be short for the month of February with the "B" missing or worn off. But as far as meaning "pots" I don't think so.
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Beale is said to have selected 10 of his crew to transport the treasure to Virginia. Why 10? Well, we know they didn't carry the treasure in their arms, so what does this suggest? 10 carts, or wagons, maybe? That would make sense, considering that 10 carts/wagons would keep the weight of each one at a low number. 10 men with Beale as their leader. Now considering the 8 or 10 ox carts, 8 or 10 teams of oxen, and 10 or 12 work horses advertised in the Lynchburg Press, Dec. 1819 (opening post), and that it was JUST AFTER Beale's crew of 10 made the 1st deposit, it makes the story seem a little better than possible.
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Also, it makes sense that, if the above were indeed the 10 members of the Beale party, they would have sold the teams and carts/wagons after the treasure was deposited. The journey back to the mine would have been much easier on horseback, without a bunch of work animals and carts/wagons. It would have been easy enough to use the money to buy more carts and animals when needed. And again, notice the dates.
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