accounting for the 1715 fleet vessels by their own " offical records"

[itmaiden]

Re: accounting for the 1715 fleet vessels by their own " offical records"

I am pretty sure I have already found the location of the Urca and the salvage/survivor camp which is of good size. Was looking at it in detail today. There is also what appears to have been a haulover area for transferring treasure or goods to another boat. It fits the description of the 1715 history too. Just one more piece of the puzzle to map until we get the whole story put back together.

itmaiden

Good morning Gentleman,

John (Fisheye) Let me start by saying that I don’t believe that the Pepper park wreck is the Urca…there is many evidence to prove it and I’m sure that those who have done their homework will agree with me. How ever I’m not done with my research so my participation on this thread is limited….
How ever this is just my humble opinion…I have enjoyed this thread very much. Just got to love seeing Greg, my buddy Terry A. and my brother Tommy G. sharing information……Great work guys!!!!!

All the best,

Chagy……

 

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[GOHO]

Re: accounting for the 1715 fleet vessels by their own " offical records"

Here is a pretty cool map i put together that shows the land elevation detail from Mantanzas Inlet to south of West Palm Beach. The resolution will not allow the best detail but you can make out all the streams and most of the inlets and places where inlets use to be. With this map it should be easier to correlate old charts to modern locations by using the land features. Let me know if it helps....

 

[Chagy]

Re: accounting for the 1715 fleet vessels by their own " offical records"

John: unfortunately, the anchor at the Pepper Park site is not one of the originals from that wreck. I believe Art Hartman donated that anchor to the state of Florida, which he recovered from another 1715 wreck site. And of course, all the cannons on that site are concrete replicas.

Luis, it is good to hear from you again my friend and see you contributing to this board once more.

"Tommy G"

Dear Tom,

Bro, as you well know I’m always watching the boards and occasionally I throw a card on the table…We have to get together soon and finish our puzzzle...

Greg B. and Terry A. we need to get together sometime and have a few Coronas….

All the best,

Chagy…..

 

[GOHO]

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Chagy, sounds good! Lets try and plan a THer BBQ or something. Anyone interested?

 

[Salvor6]

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I think Aquanut is planning another Thunter get together this summer.

 

[billinstuart]

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Sounds like a plan. I'm in!

 

[signumops]

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Coronas.
Good.
Mmmmm. Doooohhhhh!

 

[ivan salis]

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I of course plan to be there health permitting

 

[aquanut]

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Yes Guys,
I was planning to have another get together this Spring/ Early Summer. I have not gotten further than the "put it on the table" stage. We had a pretty good turnout last year in spite of (maybe because of) the rain. I'm up for any suggestions. Last year I pretty much put up everything because I created it and wanted to make sure there were no politics involved and that anyone who was interested in Treasure Hunting and wanted to come was welcome. This year, I will only be involved if this remains so. I'll be glad to host a cookout at my house again or move it to any preferred location. For those of you that don't know, my place is in North Orlando. I really want to see every one of you! I sincerely hope my old treasure hunting partner and chef Deepsix47 will be able to help me out this year. Last year he had to bow out a couple days before the cookout because of health reasons and I had to make do... This year if he bows out for health reasons it better be because he's dead or I'll kill him!
Aquanut

 

[Au_Dreamers]

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Was the Urca de lima the only Dutch ship in the 1715 fleet?

Ivan salis wrote; well the "dutch prize" vessel taken by Echeverz could have been dutch built maybe but it was recorded as being rather small in size --its also known by the following "titles" --La Olandesa --(the dutch) ---Olandesa -(dutch)--senor de la popa -- and -- senor san miguel

"Yoda; No, there is another."

 

[ivan salis]

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the dutch were famous for making small fast boats * -- they used these quick boats to out sail the larger heavier spanish vessels.

 

[Sorroque]

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While Googling the new volcano formation(s) in the Canary Islands, Hierro, I then moved to Florida and decided to mark the coordinates, within 5o feet of where I found the Rock. 27.821367,-80.42718
I did this from memory from Amberson Beach Access.

 

[Hangingfor8]

It would be interesting if we knew for sure what items were found where. That might help us nail down the locations, but I fear they may be lost forever.

 

[ourhistory153]

Good read on this thread, has anybody here dived the Urca de Lima wreck? How deep is it? Possible to do with just a snorkle and fins? What can one see, just ballast stones?

 

[signumops]

See this URL:

Urca de Lima, Sunday, 12-Aug-2007

Good pics and great directions to the wreck. You might contact this guy for material to publish.

 

[Brandond]

Anyone know excavation sites of the other wrecks?

 

[Brandond]

Anyone know of any other excavation sites from any of the other galleon searches?

 

[Brandond]

Sir I would love to get on board, I'm a 19 year old from the north who is ready to help/find help to discover some more of this hidden 1715 treasure!

 

[ivan salis]

brandond -- the problem is thus --the only "working" 1715 permits are those already issued ..the state of florida has not issued any "new" wreck salvage permits in forever ... so subletting the known sites is about the only game around --I sure there is still stuff to be found but it will take money , time and effort as well as a bit of luck to do it

 

[grossmusic]

Brandon - this is the right place to peruse (& post). Maybe a crew is looking for deckhands. You don't have to be the one with the permit & money when you're young & looking to join in with those already in the game. If you're in Florida, keep getting the word out that you're able & willing.