2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[gboy]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Diving Doc,

Don't take it personally Doc....he,he,he...lets argue and criticize on Japs treasure topic only...
Hey Doc, am a Filipino....I maybe NOT FLUENT in english bcoz its just our secondary language......intiendes...ultimo adios?..Igit2, tubol2, an igit ipapilit an tubol ibalibol...
By the way, having you in this forum....is like lacerating my PERICARDIUM...draining my CSF....tearing my CEREBELLUM....and giving me THROMBOEMBOLI in my circulation..... Hows my limited medical english term...Doc?

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

[=gboy
Realde,

"You don't have to prove anything bcoz your record proves to itself?"
My dear old man....don't ever ever try to compare your alleged treasure accomplishment to me...you are 50 YEARS OLDER THAN ME....bcoz if you compare your alleged treasure accomplishement in your younger days (same at my age).... he,he,he...your way way beyond my accomplishment...OKEY?
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Am referring to right now Gboy, sorry. The younger days were for pure adventure, of which I have received my share, still having them. Now working on treasures and history. My present treasure hunting is keeping me eating, you?
Incidentally, at your age, I had just finished freeing your Phillippines.
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We got a sackful of silver coins (spnish-american 1900s) recovered in shipwrecks in cagayan....its useless bcoz its more expensive to transport than to gain profit out of this coins..
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Hm a sack full of 8 Reales kept me eatng and exploring for a while, so why do you say that this is useless.

A small sack of say 2 cu ft. "ful"l of ,820 silver coins would run at least #1200 of silver, that is not worth anything? go back and get it, at present prices it would amount to around $180,000+ US. = 2.500,000 $ US in a bank drawing 7% interet sheehs..This would finance your expedition, no?.
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.we only wanted PRECIOUS GOLD BARS...not old dilapidated 1900 century coins...your favorite pasttimes....thats what i mean.....
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As I mentioned, those old dilapidated silver coins kept me eating and digging up more treasures. I didn't have to ask for kiddie stuff on the net for help, you are now going on 2+ years and?. what have you done with the materiel already donated to you?
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Asking for something...oh no !.....you challenge me to produce treasure...thats why you have to spend for it (not me)...and see it for yourself....
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See what?
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The 2 feet G. Budha is indeed heavy....Why still chained? he,he,he ASK THE JAPS WHY THEY CHAINED IT...(...so that NOBODY CAN TAKE IT EASILY.... understand?)
Why can't we recover it?....BCOZ IT IS HEAVY AND CHAINED....isn't it?...do i have to repeat it to you again?...hello...hello...
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Sheehs cutting the chain is the "easy" part, any school kiddie can do that ?? And if you were there, why didn't you get it? As you said once, you can rig up a hoist of some kind.
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Why the natives would wish to tell/where there gold is?.....bcoz we befriended them....our only hindrance for hauling ...is the politician..military...and NPA...sorrounding the area....he,he,he...are you drooling now with our projects?
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Nope I am not drooling, since I personally have beaten those problems myself, and have REAL programs. I am still working on the latest.. If they actually exist, there are plenty of the "coin hunters" in here that would gladly do that, in fact would have done it years ago if they were in the Philippines as you are, not just cryng. Our Marc, Doc, Dig, and so many other wonderful gals and guys could easily and willingly have done it, if they had the opportunity that you claim to have.

Why do you think that you have to remove a large amount at once? $1,000,000 in a bank drawing high (7%) interest = $70,000 per year. That is equal to approx, a #10 / 3.7 kilo small bar of gold which can easiiy be slipped by whatever or whoever may be there. ?
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true....most of the gold buyers are gullible and greedy (specially CIA gold/gold cartel buyers)....AND I WISH THEM TO BE VICTIMIZE by these gold scams.....thats why CIA/gold cartel are carefull regarding these gold transactions...bcoz they themselves are victimized by these scammers....ha,ha,ha,...
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I presume that your are kidding, If the CIA or any other gov't function were involved, they woud have some of the best specialists at their disposal, no scam artist would stand a chance.
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CIA/gold cartel confiscate Marcos gold worth billions of dollars and was never returned to Filipino people..
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Hmm why the Philippine people? As I understand, it was stolen from others ?.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~but slowly these gold scammers...are fighting back and victimizing them also...ha,ha,ha,...THIEVES ARE ANGRY WITH FELLOW THIEVES...
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Hm A fascinating thought has occured to me sigh.

What I am getting to, is stop running down other treasure hunters, no matter how big or small their projects may be, it does not make you bigger, but only smaller.


Tropical Tramp

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

gboy ]

Diving Doc,

Don't take it personally Doc....he,he,he...lets argue and criticize on Japs treasure topic only...
Hey Doc, am a Filipino....I maybe NOT FLUENT in english bcoz its just our secondary language......intiendes...ultimo adios?..Igit2, tubol2, an igit ipapilit an tubol ibalibol...
By the way, having you in this forum....is like lacerating my PERICARDIUM...draining my CSF....tearing my CEREBELLUM....and giving me THROMBOEMBOLI in my circulation..... Hows my limited medical english term...Doc?
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Dispensa me for butting in, but that sounds about how my tagalog would be. sheehs.

Tropical Tramp.

 

[tagasilay]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Wheww,

I enjoyed reading the broadsides, quite entertaining...and the essence of democracy, free speech. keep it up guys. To REALDE, one of my greatest pleasures in life is making a perfect plug, and recovering a coin without a single scratch and finding something shinny at the bottom of my sand scoop. Long live the Detectorists! Another thrill is anything my twobox would pic up as i have consulted with you and your friend. To all yams THrs in the PI, dont give up, hindi masama mangarap (its not bad to dream). To ED heres my go on your site predicament:

SInce you are near the sea and your digging is controlled or limited by the tide, i would assume your soil is mineralized by salt, this greatly limits the range of the vlf(very low freq) detector except for a few like the minelab with bbs technology or a pulse induction machine, the salt would also greatly disperse the GPR signal. Realde will agree that the two box is useless in an enclosed and limited space. As far as the pulse and minelab is concerned, in a mineralized enviroment, with a ten inch coil, i estimate it would have a maximum range of 3 ft for a shoebox size metal target in the hands of an experienced detectorist provided he could manuver it correctly inside your pit or hole. Your best bet as far as im concerned would be to take a picture of the sides of the pit that shows the soil layering you described (sand, rock, mud, greenish oily mud etc) then show it to a geologist to determine if it is natural or man made, they should be able to tell. Where to find one? Philipine institute of vulcanology or the nearest university that offers geo subjects . Also try to figure out another location. If i where a pirate, i would not stash treasure near the shoreline where the tide can alter the ground and expose it. Storms can easily take off or add 4ft of sand depending on wind direction. the storm we had 3 weeks ago deposited 4 ft of sand in many beaches facing south.HH

God bless

 

[bomber]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

i 4 1 enjoy dilapidated coin and trash hunting

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Bomber, Tag, so do I hehehehe. Course a few gold bars from time to time helps sigh.

Tropical Tramp

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

[=diving doc ]
Come on now. You've got so much stuff stashed you'll have to find the Fountain of Youth to have enough time to spend it all. LOL
Doc
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Ssssh Doc, sides, what makes you think that I haven't?

Tropical Tramp

 

[gboy]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Realde,

1) And therefore if we compare your younger days accomplishment and my treasure accomplishment today...its indeed NO CONTEST ( bcoz you have NOTHING treasure to show in 1940-50s....compared to my year 2000 treasure acomplishment)... he,he,he....

By the way, hellow? hellow?....NEVER BRAG that you FREE our country during your younger days....IT WAS ALWAYS YOUR IMPERIALISM... G.I. JOE...that give us WAR and sufferings for several decades...and for other countries as well...look around...why PEOPLE (arabs, muslims, africans...in every continent) HATES AMERICA?...so, don't ever put political topic in treasure topic bcoz its another issue and long debate again...

2) You seems to think that your good in math regarding silver coins computations...BUT YOUR WRONG !!...sackfull of silver coins...from few months of diving,divided into several divers, pumpboat operators,logistics expenditures, townfolks, local politician, police.. .and cheap buyers (ONE SILVER COIN CAN BE BOUGHT FOR ONLY...50 US CENTS HERE)..... HOW MANY MORE LEFT...JUST LOOSE CHANGE...not worth selling...(he,he,he...you are not in America...your in P.I....man...silver coins here are bought cheaply)

3) Chained Budha...
Why not saw it?....easy said than done....its 500 miles from our place, in a remote seaside jungle area....how do you cut/saw the chained Budha underwater?....people are NOT FISH...its needs boat and diving gears to treasure operate it...and if you lack of those logistics...what can you do?...nothing....understand?

4) You challenge me to produce my treasure....and yes i can produce my own treasures....but its still in our treasure sites in the jungle...if you want to see it....YOU PRODUCE YOUR OWN BUDGET SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF...ok?

SCRUTINIZE CLOSELY... EVERY... WORD OF MY REPLYS...QUOTE ME AGAIN... AND TRY TO MAKE ANY MORE COMMENTS...SO THAT I CAN EASILY REPLY IT....remember....JAPS TREASURE IS MY FAVORITE SUBJECT...I CAN DEBATE ALL YEAR LONG...AND MAKE ME MORE POPULAR?...he,he,he

 

[angel_09]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Gentlemen,
I enjoy reading exchange of words of wisdom from experts regarding treasure hunting. I really do.
In a way, I respect both of you since the subject continue to be alive and more informations are comin' out. I also do believe that what we say here does not necessary reflect who we are. All of us here in this forum are all gentlemen who have two to five layers of mask to cover oneself and to uncover others.

Am I right?

angel_09

 

[tagasilay]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

trying to post twobox find of 150lb pound i personally found under 2ft
machine is a discovery tf900.

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[tagasilay]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

My last try on posting, never seem to get it right, sorry for the inconvinience

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

[angel_09 ]
Gentlemen,
I enjoy reading exchange of words of wisdom from experts regarding treasure hunting. I really do.
In a way, I respect both of you since the subject continue to be alive and more informations are comin' out. I also do believe that what we say here does not necessary reflect who we are. All of us here in this forum are all gentlemen who have two to five layers of mask to cover oneself and to uncover others.
Am I right?
angel_09
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Buenas dias Angel, you are quite right, what I am doing is effectively asking gboy to stop running down other T hunters for their accomplishmnts or hobbies, that is wrong!

Incidentally, if one chooses the insulting or running down path of others, they must expect to receive it also, don't you agree?

Tropical Tramp

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

tagasilay
trying to post twobox find of 150lb pound i personally found under 2ft
machine is a discovery tf900.

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Hola Tagasilay: Extremely good find, I hope that you defused it? The shape is curous, I don't rmember one just like it? Is it japanese

Be very carfeful of those bombs since the nose and tail fuses are hermatically sealed and under the right conditions can ruin your discovery 900 , and, incidentally you also.

the discovery 900 is prob the best twin box in the market, it beats the present White 880 series, the 800 series are very close to it.

Tropical Tramp

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

=gboy
Realde,

1) And therefore if we compare your younger days accomplishment and my treasure accomplishment today...its indeed NO CONTEST ( bcoz you have NOTHING treasure to show in 1940-50s....compared to my year 2000 treasure acomplishment)... he,he,he....
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Wanna bet on mine ? Yours,except for vague words ?
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By the way, hellow? hellow?....NEVER BRAG that you FREE our country during your younger days....IT WAS ALWAYS YOUR IMPERIALISM... G.I. JOE...that give us WAR and sufferings for several decades...
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I know that the japanese invaded and handled the Philpines with tender loving hands just to free the poor Philippinoes from Yankee despotism? I suppose that the almost 1,000,000 Filippinoes killed around Manila by the Japanese were just accidental? I don't remember the Japaese saying that they would leave and give the Philippines back to the people, do you?.

In any event, I do "not" condone the past treatment of the Philippines by the US in the late 1890's which was no better than the Japanese in the 1940's.

However, there is one big difference, the US did give the Philippines back to the people, something no other country had ever done before. What you have done with it since is strictly your business, good or bad.

End of any political comments!!!!!! see attachments.
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2) You seems to think that your good in math regarding silver coins computations...BUT YOUR WRONG !!...sackfull of silver coins...from few months of diving,divided into several divers, pumpboat operators,logistics expenditures, townfolks, local politician, police.. .and cheap buyers (ONE SILVER COIN CAN BE BOUGHT FOR ONLY...50 US CENTS HERE)..... HOW MANY MORE LEFT...JUST LOOSE CHANGE...not worth selling...(he,he,he...you are not in America...your in P.I....man...silver coins here are bought cheaply)
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Silver coins in poor condition are always bought for the value of the silver content, @ world prices, now arond $13 USD. I repeat that sack of old useless coins could have gone a long ways to help pay for that project, or even to go back to and recover for the present one.

If silver has no value in the philippines, then many of the silver mines there would go broke and would not be operating.
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3) Chained Budha...
Why not saw it?....easy said than done....its 500 miles from our place, in a remote seaside jungle area....how do you cut/saw the chained Budha underwater?....people are NOT FISH...its needs boat and diving gears to treasure operate it...and if you lack of those logistics...what can you do?...nothing....understand?
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As I understand, a fisherman first saw it, how did he do it?
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4) You challenge me to produce my treasure....and yes i can produce my own treasures....but its still in our treasure sites in the jungle...if you want to see it....YOU PRODUCE YOUR OWN BUDGET SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF...ok?
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You want to see mine? then YOU produce the money to finish recovery, mine is proven as to precise location and amount..
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SCRUTINIZE CLOSELY... EVERY... WORD OF MY REPLYS...QUOTE ME AGAIN... AND TRY TO MAKE ANY MORE COMMENTS...SO THAT I CAN EASILY REPLY IT....remember....JAPS TREASURE IS MY FAVORITE SUBJECT...I CAN DEBATE ALL YEAR LONG...AND MAKE ME MORE POPULAR?...he,he,he
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You or the "DEBATED" subject? Even so, it has tapered off greatly in the past months.
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Ok Gboy, let's stop the personal attacks against the Coin & Cache huntrs and we will get along just fine.

There will be no need for us to continue with each other, you have your agenda, I have mine. you make yours first, you help me to finish mine. I finnish first I help you K?? I think that yours is icky, you think that mine is, sooo?

Tropical Tramp

p.s. How many of the things that you asked Jonseindy in your post # 895, can you supply for your things?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Doc, or whomever: I am curious. Documets in Japan showed that the high gov't Officials knew that Japan could not win the war after Midway, so they hoped for a negotiated peace.

They knew beyond any dubt, that the US would not allow them to keep the Philipines for many reasons, ilncluding promises to the Philippine people that they would be free.

Under these conditions, why in the world would they bury any amount of Gold in an area that would be off limits to them in the future?? Why not Okinawa, or any other Japanese Island. Even Korea would have been a better choice.

The logistics would have been easier and more secure.

Puzzled, no logic anywhere.

Tropical Tramp

p.s. I am posting a picture which was only too true. Appol. to my many Philippino friends, no disrespect intended. I even had a gal sit along side of me in the latrine asking if she could do my laundy. Liivng was hard just after hostiities ended, anc we were subjects of mutual curiosity.

 

[jonesindy]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

my enthusiasm to post and ask questions regading my encounters are doused-off by the tenor of exchanges...gues si must save it till d-day!

jonesindy

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

[=jonesindy ]
my enthusiasm to post and ask questions regading my encounters are doused-off by the tenor of exchanges...gues si must save it till d-day!
jonesindy
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HOLA Jones, post away, I would like to hear of your project and it's progress..

Tropical Tramp

 

[gboy]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Senor Tayopa,

1) Ok, showed to me your treasure accomplishment in your younger days...1940's-50's ......I had 250+ pages of my documented proof of our treasure files during my time (circa 1990-2000)....
2) HELLO....READ HISTORY.....WW2....was NOT a filipino war.....its the war between the US and The Japs.... unfortunately....Philippines was just your BATTLEGROUND....it could have been better if in every war that americans is involved...should have been on american soil...that way...we will never give a damm...as long your battlefield is not on our soil or in other foriegn country...intiendes?

3) If you have several 1900s silver coins...and you think its precious?....why not try to sell it here in the Philippines...maybe it would be bought at 50 US cents or $1 dollar... max..per piece.....that way you will realize...is it really worthy looking for these cheap silver coins? (I only wanted to emphasize that its useless to look for these silver coins here in our country...whereas, same efforts can be used instead looking for the gold bars )

4) How the natives fisherman was able to locate these underwater treasures?....its in their diving skills and breathing techniques to take a glimpse of these underwater treasures......but not enough diving/breathing skills...to haul these treasures...thats why treasure hunters like us....is just monitoring above water, marking the exact location...can't do anything w/o hi-tech diving gears...(the fact still remains,that we found OUR OWN underwater treasure sites)... still can't be hauled?...is our another problem...and my next adventure story...ok?

5) Do you want me to see your site?...am not interested...I have enough of my own projects...

Diving Doc,
I personally seen...one inch thick ORIGINAL GOLD/BANK CERTIFICATES worth several billion dollars and several thousand tons gold....that belongs to Marcoses...(by the way, my aunt/uncle was Imelda's agents of these gold transactions abroad....for decades they roamed all over the world go to different banks...etc...whatever else their gold transactions...is no longer my business)
Meaning seing these fabulous treasure deposits/transactions abroad by the Marcoses...NO LONGER surprises us filipinos. Anyway, these gold that belongs to Marcoses...was NO longer within Marcoses control bcoz it was confiscated by CIA//Gold cartel anymore.....my only concern...is to recover gold...and NEVER AGAIN DEPOSITED IT ABROAD...SO THAT IT WILL BE OUT OF REACH BY THESE CIA/GOLD CARTELS...it would be better...if we recovered all the gold and distributed all the treasure gold bars to every filipino...
Mabuhay ang lahing kayumanggi !!

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Sorry gboy, not worth replying to, except why not to the original owners? it is stolen gold, If it exists.

Tropical Tramp.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

=diving doc
Enjoy
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HI doc, I personally feel that this document is a fake, no notary or bank seal to certify it, and notice the strikng similarity to both Nicanor's and Blimston's signatures, co-inicdence ? The dates were by the same person. Wording is fascinating.

The apparant peforated section is nice, but means nothing unless it is superimposed over a critical part of a document.

The post of the Nazi gold being shipped to the Philippines doesnt make sense either. There were many places where it could be hidden much closer and handled secretly, most countries are currupt enough.

This raises up more questns than it answers.

Tropical Tramp