1857 Flying Eagle and More Buttons-Updated Photo in Reply

West Jersey Detecting

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Well, I sneaked out of the office earlier this week so I could return to one of my favorite detecting spots. I only had about an hour to detect before my absence would be noticed :angel9:. The spot has been very productive with finds dating back to the 1773 non regal KG copper in my avatar. I have also found about 15 buttons there.

Once again, the site did not let me down. I got a very weak junk signal at about 5 inches. It was masked by iron, so I was not sure if it was the iron jumping around or a good target. I removed a large piece of iron and scanned the hole again and only got the hum of the all metal channel of the DFX. I swept over the hole from different directions and then angled the coil to see if I could get a VDI. The angle worked! I got a broken jumpy signal that was settling on 31 VDI at 8 inches. Normally this is a typical VDI for a pull tab, but it was deep. It must have fell deeper into the hole after removing the iron. I pinpointed the hole and got my target, the 1857 Flying Eagle, my 5th old coin from the site. The Flying Eagle Cent is a coin that had evaded me until I found this one, so even though the obverse is in sad shape, I am a happy camper.

I never realized until today that the Small Cent was not legal tender, and it was rejected by bankers and merchants, who only accepted silver and gold.

I also found a few more buttons including a half of a tombac, the buckle, a small musket ball (?) and a few horseshoes.
 

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Great Find Neil, those fatties are hard to find. I just found another one a week ago. Mine is
a 1858. I've been so busy, I haven't posted it yet.

Bet now you will more of them. Again, Congratulations on your first fatty, Flying Eagle penny!

HH, Ringfinder
 

Jersey will keep giving up goodies , as long as there are diehard metal detectorists! WTG
 

I'm still looking for one of them too, what a nice coin. Congrats again and nice job on the cleanup :icon_thumleft:
Glenn
 

Neil in West Jersey said:
I never realized until today that the Small Cent was not legal tender, and it was rejected by bankers and merchants, who only accepted silver and gold.

Nice coin & not bad shape considering some I have seen on here, so a good first I think :thumbsup:

I'm confused by your above statement. I can understand why merchants etc only wanted gold & silver but surely it was legal tender? (even if not acceptable) Otherwise who made them & why were they not legal? (the opposite happened over here with the shortfall of small change) We had shop tokens that were illegal tender but were accepted by merchants in the 17th century, but they were tokens & these were proper coins? were they not? Please explain, as I have no clue on US stuff.
 

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Neil in West Jersey said:
I never realized until today that the Small Cent was not legal tender, and it was rejected by bankers and merchants, who only accepted silver and gold.

Nice coin & not bad shape considering some I have seen on here, so a good first I think :thumbsup:

I'm confused by your above statement. I can understand why merchants etc only wanted gold & silver but surely it was legal tender? (even if not acceptable) Otherwise who made them & why were they not legal? (the opposite happened over here with the shortfall of small change) We had shop tokens that were illegal tender but were accepted by merchants in the 17th century, but they were tokens & these were proper coins? were they not? Please explain, as I have no clue on US stuff.

I should clarify first. The 1856 was not authorized as legal tender. This was an unauthorized coin which was largely lobbied for by Joseph Wharton, who happened to have a monopoly on the nickel mines at the time. The 1857 coin was authorized.
 

Neil in West Jersey said:
CRUSADER said:
Neil in West Jersey said:
I never realized until today that the Small Cent was not legal tender, and it was rejected by bankers and merchants, who only accepted silver and gold.

Nice coin & not bad shape considering some I have seen on here, so a good first I think :thumbsup:

I'm confused by your above statement. I can understand why merchants etc only wanted gold & silver but surely it was legal tender? (even if not acceptable) Otherwise who made them & why were they not legal? (the opposite happened over here with the shortfall of small change) We had shop tokens that were illegal tender but were accepted by merchants in the 17th century, but they were tokens & these were proper coins? were they not? Please explain, as I have no clue on US stuff.

I should clarify first. The 1856 was not authorized as legal tender. This was an unauthorized coin which was largely lobbied for by Joseph Wharton, who happened to have a monopoly on the nickel mines at the time. The 1857 coin was authorized.

cheers, sounds like another one of histories vested interests
 

Congrats on the Flyin Eagle, you don't see too many of them coming up!!!! :icon_pirat:
 

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