1793 LARGE CENT?

[Don In South Jersey]

This past weekend I found this & it is so much thicker than any other coin I have found so I thought it was a slug. After cleaning, I could see the strawberry leaf at the bottom or some type of 3 leaved leaf, so I am thinking this may be that coin. I can't see a date, so I am guessing about the year...

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Cry Of The Eagle: History And Legends Of The Cherokee Indians And Their Buried Treasure - Grab it through Amazon!

[DigIron2]

damn, where did that one come from,I must have missed it. as rare as that coin is condition is not to much of a issue!

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Cry Of The Eagle: History And Legends Of The Cherokee Indians And Their Buried Treasure - Grab it through Amazon!

[Don in SJ]

Hey Don not for nothing but if the guy I sent it to said its a 7 or 8..You better believe its a 7 or 8....He is one of the world renowned copper guys. ..He is the guy experts go to....

Vino, I am friends with many of the renowned copper guys and know they have trouble sometimes with ground found coppers, since they are used to attributing ones not so corroded, so I never take their word for an attribution without me first seeing why they said what they said.... Now, I put Don's coin with three other varieties and after a close look comparing, I will say where I said it might be a S-5 based on the three leaves, I retract now, since I see the LIBERTY is smaller letters.
Now Shawn said either a S7 or S8, well I will still say it is neither of them
The Sheldon 7 is a definite no-go, not only because it does not have the smaller right leaf, but the spacing of LIBERTY is not wide enough to be a S7. Also, now that I have looked at the Reverse a bit more, there is similarity at the fraction bar but the ONE CENT is too high, also the bow is not small like it is on a S7 and there is a trefoil just to the left of C in CENT and the S7 does not have that.
The Sheldon 8 (Obv 9) seems to match for the spacing and location of LIBERTY, but looking at the Reverse I see several things to eliminate S8 also, just like on the S7. ONE CENT is too high, no trefoil to the immediate left of C in CENT and the denominator is spaced further below the fraction bar than on Don's coin.
So, I am fairly certain it is not a S-5, S-7 or S-8 based on what details I see and do not see.

What do I see--- The Reverse side has details that to me make the attribution 100% positive in my mind. Here is book description: It is a Reverse E, Large , rounded bow, shaped like a kidney or a bean. All four trefoils are in line with CENT although the outer left one is slightly high. The fraction bar is low and rests on 100. U and ST are all lower than the adjacent letters.

Now from that description, I do see on Don's coin the trefoil immediately left of the letter C in CENT (diagnostic to me) I also see the kidney shaped bow, which the S5,7,8 do not have. Corrosion and wear does make it hard sometimes and but I am certain now that the coin is SHELDON 9. This has the same Obverse as the Sheldon 8 but the reverse is entirely different S-8 has Reverse F, and Sheldon 9 has reverse E, which is what identifies it as a Sheldon 9.
Don

 

[Vino]

Vino, I am friends with many of the renowned copper guys and know they have trouble sometimes with ground found coppers, since they are used to attributing ones not so corroded, so I never take their word for an attribution without me first seeing why they said what they said.... Now, I put Don's coin with three other varieties and after a close look comparing, I will say where I said it might be a S-5 based on the three leaves, I retract now, since I see the LIBERTY is smaller letters.
Now Shawn said either a S7 or S8, well I will still say it is neither of them
The Sheldon 7 is a definite no-go, not only because it does not have the smaller right leaf, but the spacing of LIBERTY is not wide enough to be a S7. Also, now that I have looked at the Reverse a bit more, there is similarity at the fraction bar but the ONE CENT is too high, also the bow is not small like it is on a S7 and there is a trefoil just to the left of C in CENT and the S7 does not have that.
The Sheldon 8 (Obv 9) seems to match for the spacing and location of LIBERTY, but looking at the Reverse I see several things to eliminate S8 also, just like on the S7. ONE CENT is too high, no trefoil to the immediate left of C in CENT and the denominator is spaced further below the fraction bar than on Don's coin.
So, I am fairly certain it is not a S-5, S-7 or S-8 based on what details I see and do not see.

What do I see--- The Reverse side has details that to me make the attribution 100% positive in my mind. Here is book description: It is a Reverse E, Large , rounded bow, shaped like a kidney or a bean. All four trefoils are in line with CENT although the outer left one is slightly high. The fraction bar is low and rests on 100. U and ST are all lower than the adjacent letters.

Now from that description, I do see on Don's coin the trefoil immediately left of the letter C in CENT (diagnostic to me) I also see the kidney shaped bow, which the S5,7,8 do not have. Corrosion and wear does make it hard sometimes and but I am certain now that the coin is SHELDON 9. This has the same Obverse as the Sheldon 8 but the reverse is entirely different S-8 has Reverse F, and Sheldon 9 has reverse E, which is what identifies it as a Sheldon 9.
Don

Wow!!! I cant argue with that...Great research. ..The way u did that ...
Thanks.

 

[Don In South Jersey]

Thank you all for the kids words & fact finding on this coin. You gentleman are a treasure trove of information. I have included some side scans of the coin..

 

[Don in SJ]

Thank you all for the kids words & fact finding on this coin. You gentleman are a treasure trove of information. I have included some side scans of the coin..View attachment 1036000View attachment 1036001View attachment 1036002View attachment 1036003View attachment 1036004View attachment 1036005View attachment 1036006

I don't have great reference for the edges, however, it seems all varieties of the 1793 Flowing Hair have Vine and bars, except varieties S-11b & 11c. The one I found is a lettered edge with one leaf(possibly two leaves) on the edge variety making it a Sheldon 11b or 11c. But I see only one for sure, so calling it an S-11c.

 

[DiggityDiggity]

Great find! Banner? I think so

 

[d3t3ctr0n]

Love those Large Cents

 

[Bell]

Great find. That is at least a $1500 coin in its current condition given that it's in a little better shape that the one I posted a weeks ago.

 

[catherine1]

Nice coin SAVE!! Banner vote!!

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

awesome coin Don!

 

[johnnyblaze]

Nice dig man at least you could identify it as a 1793

Blaze

 

[beepbeepin]

Def. banner worthy

 

[Mach1Pilot]

That is one of my dream coins... other than a silver denomination of the same year.

Any Flowing Hair LC deserves its spot at the top... you have my vote!

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Don
Top Notch find,a real piece of history, that few will ever pull out of the ground....congrats !
Gary

 

[artyfacts]

Congrats on your rare banner worthy Flowing hair. I found mine last year. It did not make the banner but I will tell you I kissed her on the spot with dirt still clinging to her face. Banner...

 

[Carolina Tom]

Congrats on a find of a lifetime.

 

[Don In South Jersey]

Nice coin SAVE!! Banner vote!!

Thank You

 

[Don In South Jersey]

awesome coin Don!

Thank You

 

[Don In South Jersey]

Congrats on your rare banner worthy Flowing hair. I found mine last year. It did not make the banner but I will tell you I kissed her on the spot with dirt still clinging to her face. Banner...

Its a shame copper gets so corroded in the ground unlike silver, congrats on your coin as well

 

[Fattony315]

That's a great one, flowing hair anything is on my bucket list, great find.