Done a bit of dowsing myself, including "water dowsing over a hose with water running through it". I've had successes that seem to greatly exceed anything that should have been expected by chance. And, the more blinded (literally) the better, I am not interested in unblinded dowsing since there's no mystery in that from a scientific perspective and I can do that better with a recently emptied 24 ounce can of Steel Reserve than with an L-rod anyhow.
So, let's go through Carl's "Dowser Alabi list" (my term, not his).
1. I don't have anything to prove to anyone. At least not about dowsing. The Migra does like me to prove I'm a US citizen when I return from Juarez.
2. Carl won't believe it no matter what I do..... because chances of my demoing an interesting dowse in front of Carl are pretty slim. I parsed arf a few folks a few years ago on the old Tnet forum by reminding them that when it comes to proving stuff, A.R. already warned 'em what happens to "claimants".
3. Carl doesn't have to prove anything to himself one way or the other.
4. The "pay me ten grand and I'll show you" guys..... the way I read their words, they condemn themselves as con men, nobody is more certain they ain't got squat as they are themselves.
5. "I don't know why it didn't work this time, it's always worked before". Anyone who thinks they can dowse and make claims about it, who can't explain why they can't do it if Carl's watching, doesn't understand what the hell they're doing, and that's why they got caught by surprise.
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Meanwhile, check out the title of this thread and start out at the beginning. Marc posits a hypothetical treasure hunting situation and asks "is there a Long Range Locator capable of this?" It's been a long thread. And, it's not even about plain vanilla dowsing (different forum, are LRL'ers illiterate?)
Many posts back, Carl offer informed comment on the challenge and so did I, because we both work in an industry where people are really trying to find buried stuff, merely faking it doesn't count. The LRL fans have done their best to pretend that no such scenario should be taken seriously, except Art who offered that he could probably walk the perimeter and triangulate the locations with his LRL. At least he understood the question! Now frankly his response sounds like wishful thinking, especially since this is the same guy who posted the photoshopped gold pan, zero credibility but at least good entertainment.
My point is that if Art's flippant claim is as good as it gets from the LRL crowd, anyone who wants to know if LRL's are a fraud has all the evidence they need in this very thread.
But if anyone desires even more solid evidence, about a specific LRL, y'know my advice, go to the manufacturer and "Read the Advertisement!" If having read the advertisement you feel the need to buy it despite the warnings you've received here, the logical next step is to hand over your credit card and receive your punishment. Enjoy! On this, the manufacturers thereof and I am are in agreement, and with that much agreement, how could you possibly go wrong?
--Dave J.