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Who killed it. RAMIRO? We are not sure what you refer to my friend.Totally! Killed it! GreatJob!!!!
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Who killed it. RAMIRO? We are not sure what you refer to my friend.Totally! Killed it! GreatJob!!!!
You old dog you!!Let me know when you want to know the REAL location. Probably should have used the flash.View attachment 2019809
I think in the dark you got Sasquatch by mistake!YOU LEFT ME OFF THE LIST OF FOLKS IN THE PHOTOGRAPH! That is me with Kathy Ireland sitting on my lap.
If so sasquatch has a nice toosh.I think in the dark you got Sasquatch by mistake!
Another photo of the saddle in the northeast horizon
Yeah, those dang clues can sure get in the way sometimes.If you guessed that the goldmine would have to be on the western side of the saddle because he said that from above his mine he could see the military trail or the four peaks line up? He got you! And you guessed wrong! Every statement that Waltz mentioned concerning the goldmine location was a guessing statement! Like, try to guess what I’m saying? Like I’m pointing to the east from Phoenix saying that one of those salt river mountains is where my goldmine is hidden? Well! There is more than one salt river mountain towards the east! On what side of the Salt River? I can go there and be back in one day? That’s pretty much like 80 miles on tough terrain 40 one way and 40 back from the starting point? What was his starting point or the starting point? From above my mine I could see the military trail? Well! The saddle was directly above his mine and he could see a lot of things! The only thing that was not a guessing game was the trail instructions to the goldmine? It was more like finding your way through the forest by the first clue that led to the next clue. So, you see what your dealing with is a ciphered map that you have to figure out? Statements by Waltz that you have to figure out? Clues that you have to find which meant that nothing was going to be colored in for you! Why! Well, we don’t want everybody to know!!!!! You don’t get it! And that’s why you don’t get! I hope you get it now! So you don’t have to wait for me to describe the rest of the information that is pretty much going to define the same thing! Just though I mentioned that before you get any wrong ideas!
Ramiro,Yeah, those dang clues can sure get in the way sometimes.
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All part of the fun 👍😎
Ramiro,I’ve seen the mapping that belongs to that cipher map on that specific saddle. I’ve seen the place where the fort used to be on that same mountain top. I know the starting point is the salt river as specified by the Peralta stone map given to Julia by Waltz. The water holes that start the trail to the goldmine, the military trail, the old farm before you reach the gorge or the trail that leads up to the saddle depending on which of Waltz ways you choose to approach the goldmine? The rock horse area beyond the gorge, the rock ridge that belongs to the rock horse’s neck that leads to the tributary canyons located near the horse’s mouth, the funnel shape entries to the dark canyon, the face that describes both funnel shape entries as specified at the top of Peralta’s stone map, which also happens to be defined on priest stone map as the two circular structures which are funnels, the northern top wall of the the right funnel that Waltz used to find the rabbit hole, the eye of the needle’s position towards the west as Waltz drew it on his doodle drawing, the 3x3 area mapping that you fail to see on the Peralta’s stone map which was laid on top of the one hundred square map area that has been deceiving you and still you won’t consider this to be enough to turn your head towards the east? I understand your belief! I just don’t understand your perception. So yes I do believe in my knowledge and I don’t need to go inside the rabbit hole to prove the location. Answering the other threads was just to get your attention to your miss direction. No! And I really don’t have to follow your rules. Because I set this thread to follow what I believe to be right as you stated. I normally try to converse more with those who make common sense and you just proved you have common sense! I like that about you! It’s a change! Change is what is needed to find the LDM.
Ramiro,What I’m saying is that you ignored or do not understand the starting point on the Peralta stone map that was given to Julia or maybe you don’t believe in that? I usually study all the information based on my knowledge of cipher maps and the area in question. If it makes sense I will use that information because the starting is very important, it will lead you to connect all the clues. If you decide to go into the mountains looking to find a clue or clues you might find a lot of things that look like the clue and that’s ok but if you don’t connect your clues to the starting point that will define all the clues then you won’t get the support needed for your venture. It is much better to locate the starting point that will connect all the clues that way you won’t be miss lead by 2,3, or a couple of clues that will not connect to the starting point. The starting point is what is missing in everybody’s game plan and what I’m trying to explain is just that point, that is if you believe in the stone map? I do, and I believe that it is not hard to define it because I know how to read symbolic cipher maps. This one is not hard to read because it’s a large map area of all the mountain ranges close to the Salt River and it defines a section of the Salt River faces towards the north. I studied the Salt River and there is just one place that faces the north and this place will connect to all the clues that lead to the LDM. This map was handed down from Peralta to Waltz and Waltz to Julia before Walt decided to include all the clues. This map should be very important to everyone who’s looking for the LDM. If you dismiss the map you can forget about find the starting point and you will never connect your clues to all the clues because any suspected clue found west of the Salt River will never connect to finding the LDM according to this map. Those who believe in this map will have to part ways with all those who do not believe in it. All those who do not trust the map will continue to search west of the River Valley and this is the reason why I disagree with your belief and anyone who devices not to follow this map. Here is where we part ways and I will continue with what many don’t want here which is dining more clue than anyone has in over a hundred and fifty years. It’s good thing you asked! I understand your belief if you decide to continue on your venture. Trust me! I won’t bother your thread any more!
Hi ramiro.. just for the record.. Jacob waltz never gave the peralta stones to julia.. there is no record or proof the stone maps even existed in the years Jacob was alive.. there was a sketch involved.. but the stones never even saw daylight until roughly 1949.. that is way after waltz's death.. these facts are well known and recorded.. just sayin..What I’m saying is that you ignored or do not understand the starting point on the Peralta stone map that was given to Julia or maybe you don’t believe in that? I usually study all the information based on my knowledge of cipher maps and the area in question. If it makes sense I will use that information because the starting is very important, it will lead you to connect all the clues. If you decide to go into the mountains looking to find a clue or clues you might find a lot of things that look like the clue and that’s ok but if you don’t connect your clues to the starting point that will define all the clues then you won’t get the support needed for your venture. It is much better to locate the starting point that will connect all the clues that way you won’t be miss lead by 2,3, or a couple of clues that will not connect to the starting point. The starting point is what is missing in everybody’s game plan and what I’m trying to explain is just that point, that is if you believe in the stone map? I do, and I believe that it is not hard to define it because I know how to read symbolic cipher maps. This one is not hard to read because it’s a large map area of all the mountain ranges close to the Salt River and it defines a section of the Salt River faces towards the north. I studied the Salt River and there is just one place that faces the north and this place will connect to all the clues that lead to the LDM. This map was handed down from Peralta to Waltz and Waltz to Julia before Walt decided to include all the clues. This map should be very important to everyone who’s looking for the LDM. If you dismiss the map you can forget about find the starting point and you will never connect your clues to all the clues because any suspected clue found west of the Salt River will never connect to finding the LDM according to this map. Those who believe in this map will have to part ways with all those who do not believe in it. All those who do not trust the map will continue to search west of the River Valley and this is the reason why I disagree with your belief and anyone who devices not to follow this map. Here is where we part ways and I will continue with what many don’t want here which is dining more clue than anyone has in over a hundred and fifty years. It’s good thing you asked! I understand your belief if you decide to continue on your venture. Trust me! I won’t bother your thread any more!