Yesterdays Colonial hunt yeilds three cut silvers!!

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Yesterday's Colonial hunt yeilds three cut silvers!!

I got out yesterday with my good pal Bill D for another round at the colonial site that we have been pounding as of late. This time my dad was up visiting and we invited him along for a hunt.

Bill and I started the day digging into a couple of pits that we had located with test holes previously. Those who remember my post from last weekend might remember that during one of the test holes I dug the base to a candle stick and a VA Half Penny. We immediately started back there. At first we were about as excited as two small boys on Christmas Eve. The soil looked great, we dug down and identified a brick foundation, had already dug two buckles out of the pit and the nothing, but iron and brick. We spent a good hour expanding and finding a little here and there (lead items and misc brass) but nothing else. We moved on to the next one and dug a couple of flat buttons and a broken pipe, but again nothing.

After the third We called it quits. All the while my dad was roaming around surface hunting, and had done fairly well, a handful of buttons and an early worn cut silver (most likely from a pillar half reale). Bill and I called it quits and decided to join him. We only had a few short hours left to surface hunt as dad and I had to be back home early to take the wives out for the rest of the day. Within about 45 minutes dad dug himself another cut silver, this time a nice monogramed Carlos III 2 reale (early 1708-1714) and a few more buttons and other odds and ends (buckle parts, spur, etc.).

I stayed around where we dug the pits and just began to work slowly, eaking out a few buttons here and there. I just knew that if I stayed there another coin would surface. Finally with about 20 minutes left to hunt I unearthed a nice little piece of cut silver - though this one was not Spanish. This was a first for me, a 1731 6 Sol Isle Du Vent. This was a French Coin from the Windward Islands, meaning "Island of the Wind." The H is the mintmark for "La Rochelle." Too bad it is cut, but at least I had enough detail to make out what it was. On my piece I can make out H LUD "Mint mark and for Louis VX" and on the reverse a Fleur-de-lis with ISL "beginning of ISLE."

All in all we ended the day with a couple of dozen buttons (each of use digging about 12 or so) and plenty of other colonial brass and lead. Bill also dug a few items, and took some good pictures of the pits we were digging. I also dug another portion of my candlestick holder (dug the base last weekend), with the nice stembase and a nice lead seal with a stamped trident on it.

Just goes to show that not every pit you dig will pan out, but you have to try them.

HH
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Dan - I got thinking about it and I'm really becoming amazed at the variety of colonial silver we've been pulling out of this site. Out of the 16 pieces we've dug so far, I think only 5 of them are the standard 90 deg cut pistareen pieces that are quite common around here. But the other 11 are all unique. Here's a list of those as best as I can remember:

- 3 Lizzie hammereds (shilling, sixpence, penny)
- Commonwealth penny
- Spanish cob
- 1/4 reale
- 1/2 reale
- 180 deg cut French 6 Sol Isle du Vent
- Early 180 deg cut 2 reale
- 180 deg cut 1/2 reale
- 180 deg cut 1 reale

Now all we need to complete the collection is a Mass. tree coin and colonial gold. I'd be willing to bet that at least one of those is still laying in wait in that field, and that we'll walk over them eventually. Congrats again to you and your dad on an awesome day!
 

Great batch of early finds man. VA really has some nice old history. And you guys do a great job of tracking those sites down.

HH Jer
 

Amazing finds you guys keep pulling from that site! That area must have really been a "booming" spot for those times. Congrats on all the great relics and coins, I have enjoyed seeing the post of all that history being recovered.
 

I gotta ask, just what does a teeny, tiny, sliver of silver like that sound like? Read like?
I imagine it must be similar to a dime hit on the AT-Pro but I've never found one. Was it on the surface?

Thanks! and good hunt!!

HH!
 

I gotta ask, just what does a teeny, tiny, sliver of silver like that sound like? Read like?
I imagine it must be similar to a dime hit on the AT-Pro but I've never found one. Was it on the surface?

Thanks! and good hunt!!

HH!

Thats a great question - honestly it depends on how it is laying, the depth, and what is around it. The one on Saturday (small french cut) honestly read fairly low, but was also fairly deep. I was using the AT Gold (as I have for basically everything I have found in this field) and listening for anything repeatable above 38. Granted I can tell what a 38-42 signal is interesting and what is most likely large iron based on the size of the tone, the volume, and depth.

This one read about 40-44 if I remember correctly, but once getting it out it ready in the 50s-low 60's. It is funny, small cut silver will at times give you a broken reading but the VDI output is usually consistent and does not jump with the tone. In short, they do not read like a solid coin, with exception of perhaps a small halfdime.

This one was about 6" or 7" and on the small 5"x7" doubleD coil close to the max depth for a piece that small. When digging in a site like this (iron pockets, lots of mixed signals) I pretty much dig and investigate anything that has a consistent tone or VDI reading. I also run my machine about as maxed out as you can stand it, so it can be chattery at times - but you will max the depth out on it and worth every inch you get.

The broken tone you get is similar to what a large lead (.58+ caliber bullet) will give you, a low with a jump of high. When i dug the TINY quarter reale on the second dig, that one was tough to hear and even find.

Dan
 

Thats a great question - honestly it depends on how it is laying, the depth, and what is around it. The one on Saturday (small french cut) honestly read fairly low, but was also fairly deep. I was using the AT Gold (as I have for basically everything I have found in this field) and listening for anything repeatable above 38.

I figured there wasn't a hard and fast answer. It still takes a good ear and experience to get the most from any detector. Was just curious how these cut pieces might read. Thanks for the info!

I was a bit surprised in my meanderings around the old mansion. I was getting these 60-65 readings and up until then, they were almost always pulltabs/canslaw. I ignored one, two, three, then said I better check. A pretty heavily patina-ed indian head cent! Went back and the others were the same. I even found one from 1880's that was smack dab on top!! Just under the grass. I find that fascinating!

By the by, what's the difference between the AT-Pro & the AT-Gold? Just more bells and whistles?

Thanks again!

HH!
 

I figured there wasn't a hard and fast answer. It still takes a good ear and experience to get the most from any detector. Was just curious how these cut pieces might read. Thanks for the info!

I was a bit surprised in my meanderings around the old mansion. I was getting these 60-65 readings and up until then, they were almost always pulltabs/canslaw. I ignored one, two, three, then said I better check. A pretty heavily patina-ed indian head cent! Went back and the others were the same. I even found one from 1880's that was smack dab on top!! Just under the grass. I find that fascinating!

By the by, what's the difference between the AT-Pro & the AT-Gold? Just more bells and whistles?

Thanks again!

HH!

The major difference is the frequency, allowing the Gold to have a much better discrim and target seperation speed. I believe the pro to be a tad deeper when run in all metal, while the gold deeper in discrim and better at picking through heavy iron. In the water the machines are basically the same (for the type of hunting Aquachigger and I do). It is my housesite machine of choice, and honestly I believe to be the best out there for heavy iron. The pro is the machine I use for open ground and deep targets...it is right there with the F75 and a smidge below the T2.

Dan
 

Great job buddy.awesome finds.
 

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