would this be considered a medium or large triangle point?

[DigIron2]

I am having trouble identifying some stuff and this is one of them.I found it here in V.a.I am thinking either a Caraway,"being a small to medium size point that is found in the Eastern states" , or a Occaneechee which is a Large size triangle but mostly found in N.C.It resembles some other triangles like a Levanna or a Madison,but they are North eastern finds?As you can see I am having a little trouble here,any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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[The Grim Reaper]

This is not aimed at you, but in my opinion to many people want to give everything a name. Take your Triangle Point as an example. That type of Point is found in just about every state in America and will have a different name in most of them. Why not just simplify it and call it what it is? It's a Triangle Point, plain and simple. Here in my area alone I have Madisons, Hamiltons, Levannas, Ft Ancient, Ft Ancient Serrated, Concave Base, Convex Base, Eared Base, etc. It can be very confusing for a new collector and I have been collecting for 50 years and it still boggles my mind sometimes.

Also, that is one killer Triangle. Looks very thin too. Awesome find. Most of those will have the delicate tip missing.

Check out this link. It will help you if you want a name for it.

Projectilepoints

 

[ncnurseryman]

Very nice find!

 

[rock]

Good looking triangle. Many different types that is for sure. I get them confused also.

 

[quito]

I would call your Triangle Medium to large, compared to what we have up here. This one here I wouldn't consider small, and it is barely over an inch. I have them half this size.

 

[theviking]

Man, that is a killer triangle. The first point I found was a nice, well made thin triangle about the same size as yours and I still have no Idea what it is, other than a nice triangle. I think it is safe to say your piece, and mine, are probably both Woodland pieces. In the link Reaper left they show Madisons found all over the eastern states, north and south. The Levanna is a larger triangle, and thought to be older than the Madison. As you well know by now typing VA pieces, and triangles especially, can be difficult at best. I think Reaper made a good point in his post above, but it is nice to have an "idea" of the age of a find. Good luck, H.H.

 

[Metal Illness]

A True Arrowhead, not a knife, scraper or spear point. These are the last types made by the Native American Indians. These were being used along about the time "white" men introduced black powder and guns to the Americas. Here in SW Ohio, we know them as Madison points. I have never found one that big, they are fragile and usually broken (field finds). That is SWEET, Congrats!

 

[sandchip]

Beautiful points, yours and Quito's both.

 

[yakker]

Hey there- Grimm makes a good point, and I've made it too in the past- as I scratch my head trying to figure out won triangle or whatever from the next. I must say, that's a beauty. I've found a pretty good number of triangles- some with ground bases, some nearly perfect equilateral triangles- but I have not found one that big. Mine were 1.5" and less. And the smaller, the more likely they were to be a true arrowhead. Many larger ones were used as knives- at least in my experience. Here's my tri-frame. Not one over 1 3/4 " Thanks for the show Yakker

 

[rock]

Nice colors on those yakker

 

[DigIron2]

This is not aimed at you, but in my opinion to many people want to give everything a name. Take your Triangle Point as an example. That type of Point is found in just about every state in America and will have a different name in most of them. Why not just simplify it and call it what it is? It's a Triangle Point, plain and simple. Here in my area alone I have Madisons, Hamiltons, Levannas, Ft Ancient, Ft Ancient Serrated, Concave Base, Convex Base, Eared Base, etc. It can be very confusing for a new collector and I have been collecting for 50 years and it still boggles my mind sometimes.

Also, that is one killer Triangle. Looks very thin too. Awesome find. Most of those will have the delicate tip missing.

Check out this link. It will help you if you want a name for it.

Projectilepoints

Thanks Reaper,I know what you mean now, in all simplicity it just is what it is.I have only been collecting for about two years and I am really getting into.I just always thought that typing pieces was part of collecting,but now I guess its a little different when it comes to pieces like triangle points.I just got this book and it raised the question to me.Check it out if you don't already have it,its a pretty good one

 

[DigIron2]

I would call your Triangle Medium to large, compared to what we have up here. This one here I wouldn't consider small, and it is barely over an inch. I have them half this size.

Man that's a nice one!Wish I had it to sit next to this one.They would make a good pair

 

[DigIron2]

Man, that is a killer triangle. The first point I found was a nice, well made thin triangle about the same size as yours and I still have no Idea what it is, other than a nice triangle. I think it is safe to say your piece, and mine, are probably both Woodland pieces. In the link Reaper left they show Madisons found all over the eastern states, north and south. The Levanna is a larger triangle, and thought to be older than the Madison. As you well know by now typing VA pieces, and triangles especially, can be difficult at best. I think Reaper made a good point in his post above, but it is nice to have an "idea" of the age of a find. Good luck, H.H.

Thanks Viking,you just answered another question I had,wasn't sure if it is woodland or Mississppian period.that's good news.Thanks

 

[Americus]

Very nice triangles pictured in this thread.

 

[DigIron2]

A True Arrowhead, not a knife, scraper or spear point. These are the last types made by the Native American Indians. These were being used along about the time "white" men introduced black powder and guns to the Americas. Here in SW Ohio, we know them as Madison points. I have never found one that big, they are fragile and usually broken (field finds). That is SWEET, Congrats!

Thanks,I found this one in a creek on a gravel bar,probably why I got lucky the whole thing was there.I was hounddoggin and there it was,,I couldn't believe it at first.one of them moments I have to saver because it just hasn't been happening for me here lately.i have been looking but man the stuff is hard to find.

 

[DigIron2]

Hey there- Grimm makes a good point, and I've made it too in the past- as I scratch my head trying to figure out won triangle or whatever from the next. I must say, that's a beauty. I've found a pretty good number of triangles- some with ground bases, some nearly perfect equilateral triangles- but I have not found one that big. Mine were 1.5" and less. And the smaller, the more likely they were to be a true arrowhead. Many larger ones were used as knives- at least in my experience. Here's my tri-frame. Not one over 1 3/4 " Thanks for the show Yakker

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Man Yakker,you found allot of them!Nice collection

 

[DigIron2]

Thank You Guys for the help!joe

 

[rock]

I usually find them and put them away till I run into a dry spell then try to type them. I believe the size of yours will be Woodland. The small points are Mississippian an inch or smaller. Hamilton would be the only exception.

 

[DigIron2]

I usually find them and put them away till I run into a dry spell then try to type them. I believe the size of yours will be Woodland. The small points are Mississippian an inch or smaller. Hamilton would be the only exception.

My dry spell has been here for awhile now.Just terrible conditions everywhere around here.I pretty much picked my one cut over clean,the creeks are filled with leaves ,and all the farmers around here planted nothing but soy beans last year.I am hoping they turn the fields this year.That sure is a nice piece you found not to long ago.That would have made my month for sure.

 

[rock]

We had a flood a few weeks ago that washed all of the creeks real good. But most of the warm days haven't been on my days off. I just know nobody has checked the creeks due to the cold. Probably all waiting on me just laying there. Got me some waterproof thick pants today.