Will there be a new Tesoro for 2015?

[Honest Samuel]

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[Phantasman]

Trying to figure out how a coin can only be detected to 8" in the air, but 10" in the ground. Ground contains minerals that impede detection. Air doesn't. Even GB doesn't get "all" minerals.

Any of the dozen or so detectors I have had, if they air tested further from the coil, they were deeper in the ground.

 

[jld66]

I agree Scott...and that is why I wont buy another Vaquero without "testing" it first....wouldn't mind having another "hot" one. I had fairly "weak" Silver umax that even called Tesoro about. Went 6" max on anything smaller than your hand. I was told this was "average" depth for any VLF detector that they made.....I really like Tesoro machines, but they lost some respect from me there. We all know a Tejon should do way better than 6" on a coin or bullet!

it has been said by someone on here, i won't say who, that turning down your sensitivity down to 6-7 that you will get more depth. air testing a 45 silver dime with my vaquero with sense on 10, disc all the way down, threshold around 2 o'clock, will get 8 1/4 inches. with it on 6-7 even 8, can only get 5-5 1/2 inches. in my small test bed on a 8 inch deep clad quarter, with sense on 10, hits it good. wont hit it at all at 6,7, or 8. starts getting it at 9. i'm not an expert or claim to be. but, i do not see how having sense at 6-7 gets more depth. i only run it that low in a real trashy site.

 

[Phantasman]

it has been said by someone on here, i won't say who, that turning down your sensitivity down to 6-7 that you will get more depth. air testing a 45 silver dime with my vaquero with sense on 10, disc all the way down, threshold around 2 o'clock, will get 8 1/4 inches. with it on 6-7 even 8, can only get 5-5 1/2 inches. in my small test bed on a 8 inch deep clad quarter, with sense on 10, hits it good. wont hit it at all at 6,7, or 8. starts getting it at 9. i'm not an expert or claim to be. but, i do not see how having sense at 6-7 gets more depth. i only run it that low in a real trashy site.

Now that sound right. jld. It could be that the person had a Cibola, where he was having issues with mineralization and had to make it less sensitive to calm the detector (or EMI). Then`that comment makes sense. I could never get better depth on either my Bandido II or my DeLeon by reducing sensitivity than having at least a 9-10 or even supertuned.

 

[atomicscott]

Trying to figure out how a coin can only be detected to 8" in the air, but 10" in the ground. Ground contains minerals that impede detection. Air doesn't. Even GB doesn't get "all" minerals.

Any of the dozen or so detectors I have had, if they air tested further from the coil, they were deeper in the ground.

I also wondered the same. Many times I have found 9" plus dimes with my F2, but never got more than 6-7" in air tests. Even my with the 4" sniper, I got 8" dimes in ground. This was at sites with mild, moist ground though

 

[DiggerinVA]

I think you have nailed it with your last comment Scott....."mild, moist ground"......Heavy mineralization or really dry ground will not give the depths of an air test. I think it has to do with the moisture in the soil (or sand) giving the signal a "conductor" I am by no means an expert in this area, only stating a somewhat uneducated opinion......lol.

 

[atomicscott]

I think you have nailed it with your last comment Scott....."mild, moist ground"......Heavy mineralization or really dry ground will not give the depths of an air test. I think it has to do with the moisture in the soil (or sand) giving the signal a "conductor" I am by no means an expert in this area, only stating a somewhat uneducated opinion......lol.

I believe your opinion is correct. The moister soil and lack of mineralization help to increase the conductivity of the copper (clad) coins I assume.

 

[Fletch88]

It is the halo effect which opens up a whole other can of worms! Some will tell you there is no such thing but I think it is a factor.

 

[Phantasman]

It is the halo effect which opens up a whole other can of worms! Some will tell you there is no such thing but I think it is a factor.

Oxidation only occurs with ferrous metals. Non ferrous metals doesn't seep into soil. Alloys will if acidic soils are present.

Moist soil activates the salts in the soil that make for a better conductor.

Here is Dave J's take which sounds acceptable.

http://www.fisherlab.com/hobby/davejohnson/HaloEffect.pdf