Wild West Bullet Cartridges?

[Old Pueblo]

I have a bunch of old ammo here for you all today, most of which does not have any headstamps, which makes me believe they are very old. I am hoping someone here can help identity them for me, and possible give me a date range as to when they were made. Im going to start with a photo of two old casings here on top, and post the others below as I get to them, so scroll down because there is more. Thank you

Also keep in mind that these all came from the same old homestead in Southern Arizona, where I have found other contemporary artifacts, such as old Papago Indian trade pottery sherds from the late 1800s/early 1900s, broken cork top bottles from the same time period, other old ammo which I have already dated or will be posting here to show you guys (such as shotgun shells, military/wartime made ammo, and other casings with old headstamps). I also found an old Mexican centavo from 1903, and the old Great Seal Button that I recently posted a "thread" for.

First one:



This first one is what appears to be a .44 round without a headstamp, with what appears to be the same size of bullet above it, only that one says "WRA Co 44 WCF" on it. The only other difference between the two that I can see, besides headstamps, is that the one on bottom (without headstamp) appears to be rounded around the bottom edge, unlike the WRA one that is perfectly flat on bottom.

Any info on either of these two rounds would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

 

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[Old Pueblo]

Bullet # 2



This second casing here, again, has no headstamp, and is a bit longer than the two casings in the photo above. Above is a modern .45 Colt for comparison.

Sorry, this pic is supposed to be the right side up.

 

[Old Pueblo]

3rd Bullet:



Another old bullet without a headstamp. Its a short little thing, smaller than a .45 ACP, but appears to be about the same width. Modern .45 Colt for comparison.



This is the base of the casing where the headstamp would be if it had one.

 

[Old Pueblo]

4th Casing



This one looks about as wide as a .45 ACP but a little bigger in length.

Thanks again

 

[Old Pueblo]

And just so everyone knows, the shotgun shells I have found date from 1879 (With a Winchester No. 10) to the 1920s or 30s (Found some Leaders & Repeaters, which date from about 1904 to the 1920s/30s or so). I have found others too, just cant think of the specifics off the top of my head. Also found some old rimfires of various calibers and a fired 1873 Trapdoor round dated November 1882. It says CF on it, in addition to the date. Does anyone know what that means? Maybe Center Fire?

 

[DirtyPockects]

The 44 WCF stands for Winchester Center Fire. The other one could be a rim fire or a pin fire

 

[Old Pueblo]

Great, thank you. I always thought WCF stood for Winchester Center Fire, as I have found many others just like it.

 

[Old Pueblo]

I am also interested in knowing when the various American ammo manufacturers began using headstamps on their ammo. I have ammo with headstamps going all the way back to the 1880s, and have seen other ammo from the 1880s, but none earlier than that. If anyone has any info on this, please let me know. Thanks