who really discovered american

Sure would be awesome to find one of those 1lb. coins.
 

Many people may lay claim to the discovery of the land now know as America...Phonicians, Vikings, and numerous europeans.

White spaniards were late comers on the discovery timeline.

We need to acknowledge that the people commonly referred to as Native Americans, are immigrants also. Coming from the orient across the Aleutions and dispursing southward into Central and South America and eastward across Canada and middle and east America.

Prior to Columbus, Ponce DeLeon, and others, were preceded by european ships which crossed and landed along the eastern seaboard, to repair, to obtain fresh water, food, wood, and occassionally trade with the natives.

Cartographic maps of the Americas have been found that pre-date Spanish explorers...

Pacific Islanders and sailors from the orient also crossed the Pacific to land along the western seaboard of the Americas...

And before modern Native Americans, other species of man probably inhabited the continent, as well.

I don't feel that pointing a finger to the discovery of the Americas is as important as understanding the evolution of man's history imprinted on the land itself.
 

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stefen said:
Many people may lay claim to the discovery of the land now know as America...Phonicians, Vikings, and numerous europeans.

White spaniards were late comers on the discovery timeline.

We need to acknowledge that the people commonly referred to as Native Americans, are immigrants also. Coming from the orient across the Aleutions and dispursing southward into Central and South America and eastward across Canada and middle and east America.

Prior to Columbus, Ponce DeLeon, and others, were preceded by european ships which crossed and landed along the eastern seaboard, to repair, to obtain fresh water, food, wood, and occassionally trade with the natives.

Cartographic maps of the Americas have been found that pre-date Spanish explorers...

Pacific Islanders and sailors from the orient also crossed the Pacific to land along the western seaboard of the Americas...

And before modern Native Americans, other species of man probably inhabited the continent, as well.

I don't feel that pointing a finger to the discovery of the Americas is as important as understanding the evolution of man's history imprinted on the land itself.
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I read an article that mentioned the Native American's carbon footprint. For once, I'm with you Stepen. Natives burned whole Forrest, and are believed by many to have caused a small ice age. If I can find that piece, I'll post it. The same article makes mention of Vikings being defeated by Natives around 1300, If my recollection is correct.
 

lol also if it weren't for him inventing the internet I'd never gotten to see gatorboys shells
 

Ahhh.. next Tuesday at nine on the History Chanel the Series MANKIND will be covering that time period. It should be a good one.
 

I have a feeling I should not look at whatever that is.
 

While a graduate student I was fortunate to hike into the remote Havasupi Indian village located in Havasupi Canyon, a branch of the Grand Canyon.

While there, a guide walked us right up to an ancient granary totally intact.

Didn't get to see any stone art due to time constraints.

Spent several weeks touring the whole area around the Four Corners area (New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona and Utah) whichis a wealth of villages, cliff houses, granaries and pit houses.

A few years ago there was a staggering forest fire in the region, and following the fire, numerous structures were found that were hidden by dense overgrowth...

In the end, as the rancher stated, we are steward of the land...and it's history.
 

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While a graduate student I was fortunate to hike into the remote Havasupi Indian village located in Havasupi Canyon, a branch of the Grand Canyon.While there, a guide walked us right up to an ancient granary totally intact. Didn't get to see any stone art due to time constraints.In the end, as the rancher stated, we are steward of the land...and it's history.The whole area around the Four Corners area (New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona and Utah) is a wealth of villages, cliff houses, granaries and pit houses.
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Been there on several occasions, if you like ancient indian history the four cornors is probably the best place to find it...... Love Mesa Verde.:icon_thumright:
 

And many mountaintop villages in and around Santa Fe New Mexico, as well...

Been to some...never stop being facinated...
 

There are other regions in the western US that are like the old ranch...

Specifically, The Lost Coast region of Humboldt County is vertually unexplored and contains many indian villages and fishing middens...no roads and horseback or foot access only...
 

They are also all over Utah.........
 

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If the "one land mass" theory is correct, Neanderthals quite possibly would have roamed what we now recognize as North America.
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Are you talking land bridges or pangea
 

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