im only talking relics here,,,,,,,,i would consider myself very hard core when it comes to relic hunting,,,,,,,,ive found a ton of bullets with the xlt and ive found a ton with the dfx,,,,,two good detectors,,,,,but when it comes to the tejon,,,,ive found a ton also,,,but a lot deeper,,,,,i agree with joe from missouri,,,,,the dfx will drive you crazy in the woods,,,you touch something in the woods and the darn thing beeps,,,,when it comes to relics and reliics only,,,in my opinion you cant beat the tejon,,,,joe from missouri turn me on to the tejon,,,,,and i think between us,,,,we have been responsible for at least 8 or 9 tejons being sold in the last 4 or 5 months,,,,,and the folks who have bought these are just as sold on them as i am,,,,,now remember all you find mall experts,,,,im only talking relics,,,,,,and by the way,,,i still think the vision or whatever its called now,,,,,,is no relic hunter,,,,,they need to take that program out,,,