Which XP?

[sibbley]

I'm considering an XP detector. Honestly, the reason for this consideration is how much I love the MI6 pinpointer. I had a pro-pointer AT and a ProFind 35 and couldn't stand either. Always seemed to be chasing something that wasn't there. Since I bought the MI6 I haven't had that problem.

Anyway, I think the Deus II is out. I really don't want to spend that much. I've been looking at either the Deus I or the Orx. I've seen the Orx with wireless headphones for $599 with either the 9" or 11" HF or the X35 coils. I thinks that's how it was. I like that price.

I've only been detecting for about 9 months. so I'm still learning. Looks to me that the Orx is my way to go. I believe I read the Orx is really good in trashy areas. I hunt yards and fields no beach close enough.

What do you folks think? What would you do?

 

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[DIG5050]

Consider a Deus II WS6 master, or a lightly used Deus II RC master. Shop around for the best deal and see what you can find. You won’t regret it.

 

[Emil W]

I suggest watching these two videos comparing the Deus 1 to the ORX. Gary Blackwell is one of the most knowledgeable XP testers you'll find.




I have both the Deus 1 and 2, as well as a Deus lite, which is basically the Deus 1 version of the D2 WS6 master. The Deus 1 is an excellent machine. Had the D2 never been released I would have been content using the D1 for the rest of my life. I have no experience with the ORX.

 

[cudamark]

I think I'd just stick with your Legend. To me, it's not much of an upgrade going to the XP's.

 

[sibbley]

I think I'd just stick with your Legend. To me, it's not much of an upgrade going to the XP's.

Interesting thought. Thank you...

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

I've been using a Deus 1 non-stop for over 8 yrs. - thousands of great finds.
Has a ultra fast processor / recovery speed in iron and the most comfortable swing all day machine out there.

I've never used the Deus 2 but it's getting a lot of great reviews.
I'm sure you would be very happy with either one.

 

[sibbley]

The whole world went upside down last Monday, 9-18-23. I bought a Manticore.

 

[bc5391]

The whole world went upside down last Monday, 9-18-23. I bought a Manticore.

you can't go wrong with any of them. I used the ORX for awhile, sold it and bought the Deus because it had more features, used it for several years and bought a legend (only because I missed my Nox). earlier this year I bought the Manticore, my problem is, I only have 2 arms and can only wear 1 set of headphones at a time. I am going to start thinning out my hoard, I also seem to be collecting pinpointers and have the same problem with the arm thing.

 

[sibbley]

you can't go wrong with any of them. I used the ORX for awhile, sold it and bought the Deus because it had more features, used it for several years and bought a legend (only because I missed my Nox). earlier this year I bought the Manticore, my problem is, I only have 2 arms and can only wear 1 set of headphones at a time. I am going to start thinning out my hoard, I also seem to be collecting pinpointers and have the same problem with the arm thing.

Lol, I get the arm thing...

 

[Bart@Big Boys Hobbies]

I've never used the Deus 2 but it's getting a lot of great reviews.
I'm sure you would be very happy with either one.

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[pepperj]

I used the Deus l for about 5 yrs-great detector and basically had it opened right up with the 9x5 elliptical HF coil using the X/Y screen.
Bought the Deus ll a year ago from the proceeds of a scrap sale clean up.

I have now settled into using the relic to sniff out deeper running max disc, (5)

But mainly the general program
Audio set on the High Square
Reactivity at 1
Disc at 6-8 depending
Sensitivity 98

When it hits that high sq. and it goes from a high # to a 05 it's usually fencing wire, 83/85-02 is usually a nail. Digging iron now over the Deus 1 is out of curiosity and I'm only fooled a couple of times during a 3-4 hunt.
The cast iron (pot parts-stove-track nuts) seem to be in the norm of fooling me once on a site.
Flat iron with the typical hole is another common got me signals.
Though I can say with all honesty that the iron digging has been reduced by 90% easily.
Not in anyway knocking the D1, but the fact is when I can gleam out more non-ferrous in a hunt I'M LIKING IT BETTER.

Is the Manticore a better machine? I wouldn't pass it up if one was dropped on the doorstep either.
It was a hard one to decide on which one to buy a year ago.
But with the track record of flooding/ears snapping/and other issues of the Minelabs have had I bought the D1 & ll

 

[sibbley]

Bought an ORX that was delivered last night. After having the Manticore for several months now, I'm not too sure it's a better machine than the XP's. I had the ORX out for about 4 hours today and fell in love with the machine. I was using the 9x5 HF coil it came with (bought a 11" round x35 too), I was getting faint high tones in an area of a ball field I've hit with the Manticore. The Manticore missed them. Unfortunately, I can't dig in this park, so I don't know what the signals were. I was using coin fast program. I haven't tried coin deep yet.

Going to hit my yard tomorrow. That will be a real test. I've hit it pretty good with the Manticore. If I can sniff out anything but iron, I'll be totally sold on XP products. I am in no way putting down the Manticore, it's a great machine and definitely a keeper. The ORX just really impressed today. If only I could have dug the targets.

Definitely thinking about a Deus 2.

 

[robertk]

Going to hit my yard tomorrow. That will be a real test. I've hit it pretty good with the Manticore. If I can sniff out anything but iron, I'll be totally sold on XP products.

Just bear in mind that you'll always miss things, no matter what machine you're using, so finding things in an area you already hunted doesn't necessarily make the new machine better. I've found plenty of things in areas I already hunted with the same machine. The only way to compare machines is side by side on the same targets, IMO.

 

[sibbley]

Just bear in mind that you'll always miss things, no matter what machine you're using, so finding things in an area you already hunted doesn't necessarily make the new machine better. I've found plenty of things in areas I already hunted with the same machine. The only way to compare machines is side by side on the same targets, IMO.

Yeah, I get that. When I started with the Manticore in my yard I found things I didn't find with the other machines. Legend, Ace Apex, X-Terra Pro, and Impact. Many factors to consider, differing search patterns, ground moisture, amount of iron and the fact that I still use the Manticore with factory settings. I could dial it in to make it work better for each situation. Still lots of iron in my yard that could be masking other items.

I've just never really "clicked" with any of those machines. I began swinging the ORX and I just seemed to really hear what it was telling me. Swinging the ORX, just feels right.

 

[cudamark]

Yeah, I get that. When I started with the Manticore in my yard I found things I didn't find with the other machines. Legend, Ace Apex, X-Terra Pro, and Impact. Many factors to consider, differing search patterns, ground moisture, amount of iron and the fact that I still use the Manticore with factory settings. I could dial it in to make it work better for each situation. Still lots of iron in my yard that could be masking other items.

I've just never really "clicked" with any of those machines. I began swinging the ORX and I just seemed to really hear what it was telling me. Swinging the ORX, just feels right.

We may have to make a trade!

 

[sibbley]

Went out this morning with the Manticore and ORX. I have an area in the back yard that has iron and foil. Found a spot that the ORX hit a 91 and 94. Manticore had 30's. I opened a plug about 10 inches round and 5 inches deep. Lots of foil in the hole and through the plug. Area used to be a burn pit.

After removing the foil, I swung both over the hole again. Still had two hits at 90 and 91 on the ORX and the Manticore was now a single target at 45. I pulled some more dirt out of the hole and re-swung. The target moved to the dirt removed from the hole. I ended up with two aluminum pieces one small and one tag like. Dime added for size reference.



Some of the other ORX finds turned out to be iron with no VDI. Just a faint high tone. Nails were about 3 inches, the hook like doodad about 8 inches, and the other piece was about 4.



So, I guess if I would have hit that spot with the Manticore and had a 30's hit in that area, I probably would have passed by knowing about the foil in the old burn pit area. Why the ORX hit those pieces of aluminum around 90, I don't know, but it made me want to dig. BTW, I was still using the 9x5 HF coil.

Still feeling really good about the ORX, and happy that the Manticore did hit every target the ORX did. The Manticore was sure the iron was iron. 😁

I did get the Go Terrain app working. Not sure it's really going to be helpful.