What is it? From Pound The Ground.

[Detectorist143]

Ok this was my first target at PTG in Chazy NY.
The area was an 1812 pathway for all sides.
OK so..
It is lead and dime size. Looks to me me as it was completely
Round. But was ovaled after it was lost? Little more than half
Its length it hollow. The other part is solid lead.

Only thing I can think of is a gaming piece from a bullet?

Any thought?

 

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[ticndig]

looks like a concrete anchor .

 

[creskol]

Barb wire or small cable repair crimp.

 

[firemanphob]

i'm with Creskol. Cable crimp sleeve.

 

[Detectorist143]

Ya I doubt it's a cable sleeve. Tho I do see the resemblance.
If it is it would be a terminator because it has a full solid end.
Also I do not think they made them from lead at any time.
I also found a few fired mini balls in the same area along with a carved fishing weight. From a bullet.

 

[trdking]

This is a crimp sleeve for binding ground wires in an electrical box. Have used thousands of them.

 

[Madmox]

This is a crimp sleeve for binding ground wires in an electrical box. Have used thousands of them.

Agreed! We also used them to splice and repair power lines.

 

[Detectorist143]

Sorry all, Still not positive it is anything like that. It again is NOT hollow. It would and could not be use to connect any electrical wires as it is solid on one end.
The wire could not go though it. Also again they do not make electrical connectors from lead.
Lastly the items in the pics above were found in the same area as this item.

All are lead bullets and been confirmed as 1800 time frame. You can also see the carved fishing sinker. Leads me to believe it is not modern anything.

Thanks for all the help. It can be impossible sometimes to ID a find.

Very simaliar but never made from lead copper and zinc yes.

 

[Indian Steve]

The 2 flat "bullets" are actually lead nail caps for tin roofing.

 

[trdking]

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Sorry all, Still not positive it is anything like that. It again is NOT hollow. It would and could not be use to connect any electrical wires as it is solid on one end.
The wire could not go though it. Also again they do not make electrical connectors from lead.
Lastly the items in the pics above were found in the same area as this item.

All are lead bullets and been confirmed as 1800 time frame. You can also see the carved fishing sinker. Leads me to believe it is not modern anything.

Thanks for all the help. It can be impossible sometimes to ID a find.

Very simaliar but never made from lead copper and zinc yes.
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The sleeve you are showing is actually for crimping Stainess steel stranded cable. The Cap sleeve you first show is for binding copper grounds. it is a cap and all wires go in from the bottom and then are crimped.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I've read everybody's replies, and considered the reasoning in them, and viewed all the photos. Having done so, I still agree with Detectorist143 (the object's finder). Here's why. Note that in addition to the tunnel in it not going all the way through it, the object has a raised ring encircling each end. Why? Those raised rings serve no purpose on a crimp, nor cable-sleeve, nor a grounding-wire cap. Thus, they seem to be just "decorative"... a characteristic which isn't appropriate for a generic utilitarian object like a crimp, cable-sleeve, or grounding-wire cap.

I mention this because in very-closely examining a great many manufactured objects, a characterisitic like a raised ring, or a groove, is included on the object because it serves a purpose relating to the object's function, or the process of manufacturing it. If the raised ring (or groove) has no purpose, it is simply a "decorative" or "ornamental" characteristic.

If somebody here can explain a FUNCTIONAL (or manufacturing-process) purpose for the raised rings at each end of Detectorist143's find, I'm all ears to learn about it.

Lastly... in closely examining the photos, I observe that the object's lead body is so slick that it reflects light. Its patina is downright shiny. Cast lead bullets don't look like that, nor cable-sleeves, etc. But, carving a lead object does produce that slick-looking surface. In particular, the light-reflection seen in photo #3 does look to me like a carved-slick area. So, like Detectorist14, I think it may be a carved-lead object.

Just my opinion, and observations, folks. Make of them what you will. Like I said, I'm all-ears. I'm too old to take offense at somebody having a different opinion of the evidence.​

 

[Deftone]

Get crimped! Nice id!

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Maybe a person or soldier made a thimble out of a bullet and it got flattened? are there any dimples from a needle that aren't visible in a picture?

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Measure the the thickest points to see if it would match any calibers used during the era you believe it to be from that could eliminate if it is or isn't a bullet.But it doesn't eliminate it from being the lead used for casting bullets.(bar lead)Could be unidentifiable.Cool find regardless.