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What Does The World Outside Think The Beale Papers Are
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To answer the question, based on observations and reading thousands of posts on so many claims of solving the mystery, I would say I at least believe it's a fairy tale until proven...
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If you have to give that table to him then he's the wrong guy for the job. PERIOD!
That is just "a basic theory table." The amount of other variables that can come into play can only be recognized and accounted for through years of wide-spread hands on experience.
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Cut all of that back about 60 % and they will be just about correct.
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Variables exist. As ever.
What the target is. What it is in. Type earth. Period of time elapsed since being placed ,ect...
6ft. with the right unit may be quite doable with the described Beale treasure. At least enough to get a hit.
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YEP! 20 men were left behind to continue "operations", in Colorado.
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At a time when there was no known efficient process in existence to remove all of the impurities from the gold....
That wouldn't come about for another 30 years or so in that region. Ooopsie! Honest Samuel
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Two box detectors would help.
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At a time when there was no known efficient process in existence to remove all of the impurities from the gold....
...or those friendly Indians they used for labor for their digging activities, were not that friendly and decided to do more than create "rumors of massacres".
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Amazon did not select the categories, it was whoever listed it.
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Eh...?At a time when there was no known efficient process in existence to remove all of the impurities from the gold....
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True... NO GOLD Mines noted in Colorado, at THAT time, EITHER!
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Correct! The author of the BOOK did! You will only find The Beale Papes in the Non-fiction everywhere you look for it! Only a few people here think it's a fictional work. The rest of the world says it's Non-fiction!
You guys that think the Pamphlet to be fictional would have better luck playing the lottery!
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lol....you can't produce a single documented account of Spanish gold mines in the region in question during the period in question. No one has ever been able to, not even the scholars in the archives. You're simply dreaming and practicing creative theory there, my friend.
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I seriously doubt that the author listed on that Amazon page you posted, James Beverly Ward, selected the category for THE BEALE PAPERS- he has been dead for quite some time.
Now by stating that the author posted that on Amazon, that has James Beverly Ward listed as author, are you now in agreement that Ward was the true author of the this story, which indeed would indicate that it was a work of fiction?
Some comments from those that state it is a work of Fiction:
"To me, the pamphlet has all the earmarks of a fake"
,-Dr Clarence Williams , Head Researcher of THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
"The Beale treasure is likely to be a hoax invented by whomever authored the Beale Papers"- Dr Todd Mateer "some pretty compelling arguments that the entire original story (Beale Papers) was a hoax"- Nick Pelling
"I'm afraid that the Beale Papers Mystery story is just a fable"- Ken Bauman
"Mr Walker(Ward's greatgrandson) admitted to having a copy of the Beale Papers, in which he placed no credence...and thought undoubely Mr. Ward was the true author of the Beale Papers...unanswered is the question as to why he wrote the story...the investigation in which we made tended to support the view that the whole story of gold buried in Bedford county by Captain Beale and his associates was spun from the imagination of Me. Ward".
-Lt Thomas Fawcett
"The ciphers should be considered in the same light as the myriad treasure maps sold in the Southern states purported to come down from pirate days".
-Elizabeth Smith Friedman, Div of Intelligence USCG
(he Beale Papers were) specifically designed to lure the unwary reader"
-Col William Friedman US Military codebreaker
Now if the rest of the world says it's Non-fiction, please provide a list of "the rest of the world" that says it's non fiction, because this Amazon page does not confirm that it is "non-fiction" in anyway whatsoever.
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Hear YE! Hear YE!
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lol....you can't produce a single documented account of Spanish gold mines in the region in question during the period in question. No one has ever been able to, not even the scholars in the archives. You're simply dreaming and practicing creative theory there, my friend.
A French Expedition to Pagosa Peak
In 1765 a French scholar studying in Spain stumbled across the notes from the Onate expedition. He was so taken by the idea of unearthing the lost mine that he raised money to travel to the American West with a party large enough to properly exploit his discovery. According to W.C. Jameson’s Colorado Treasure Tales, the French miners found the mine and went to work. Using equipment and mules purchased in New Orleans, they excavated nine shafts near Pagosa Peak and accumulated gold that some say would be worth one hundred million dollars today.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/treasure-leads/155674-spanish-gold-colorado-mine-shaft.html
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lol....you can't produce a single documented account of Spanish gold mines in the region in question during the period in question. No one has ever been able to, not even the scholars in the archives. You're simply dreaming and practicing creative theory there, my friend.
This book may help you understand!
https://www.amazon.com/Juan-Mountains-Southwestern-Colorado-Conquistadors/dp/1937851060
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