Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820s Riflemans Militia Button!)

[Elad]

Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

What can I say... my new field is really exceeding my expectations. The trash to keeper ratio is about 25 to 1 but as you can see it's really worth the work!

It wasn't as hot today and I got a lot of smug looks from the groundhogs. It won't be long before I start digging my own home out there!

I can only imagine what went on in this field so long ago... and I have only scratched the surface!

...and I have also scratched my arm. I have no idea but I have poison ivy and the only place I was, was digging in the field.

Notice the 2 CENT PIECE. My first. There is something VERY strange about it... Neil and fir69 seem to think it might be some kind of plaster from an attempt to counterfeit. On the original coins surface, there is remnants of some kind of plaster. You can make out the coins high points through it. Note, this coin was found in fine sand and like everything else found in this field, is well preserved. This leads me to believe that the coin was lost in this condition. Anyone have any ideas?

Also notice the early Marines button. It's a 2 piece that is missing it's backpiece, and it's damaged.

More to come for sure... HH!

BUTTON ORIGIN: William Wood & Company, ca 1830 from Philadelphia, not British if same one (most likely) b/m Wm. WOOD & CO [Address : Wood Wm. & co. Dry Good Merch’s, 65 High St, Philadelphia, PA]

It is a RF25, Wood was probably a clothier/retailer who had his name put on the back of the button, which was a common practice then. Button most likely made by Armitage around 1826 or his successor William Pinchin.

Thanks to Don for the Information!

Below are finds from the same field, the day before. A button is a Horstmann.

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[jamesbibb]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

It seems that you are onto a great site, Elad Artillery, 1820's Rifleman's, and also 1850's Marine's buttons (which is another great find) Since the Rifleman's button is quite a bit older than the other two, I'd think you're on a spot that was camped for several years. I'm looking forward to future posts I'll 2nd the banner nod on that Rifleman's, its a beauty

Thanks!! I've been struggling for a banner find for a long long time.

HA That makes 2 of us!
Sweet buttons my friend! Ill push the banner button as well!

Thanks! It's hard to sit by and watch as your friends all find amazing stuff and make the banner while you are left sitting on the sidelines. Appreciate the vote! 8)

Or finding banner worthy stuff and just not making it up there? Nice buttons BTW dig every signal in that feild it may produce something truley uniuqe

 

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[Elad]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

It seems that you are onto a great site, Elad Artillery, 1820's Rifleman's, and also 1850's Marine's buttons (which is another great find) Since the Rifleman's button is quite a bit older than the other two, I'd think you're on a spot that was camped for several years. I'm looking forward to future posts I'll 2nd the banner nod on that Rifleman's, its a beauty

Thanks!! I've been struggling for a banner find for a long long time.

HA That makes 2 of us!
Sweet buttons my friend! Ill push the banner button as well!

Thanks! It's hard to sit by and watch as your friends all find amazing stuff and make the banner while you are left sitting on the sidelines. Appreciate the vote! 8)

Or finding banner worthy stuff and just not making it up there? Nice buttons BTW dig every signal in that feild it may produce something truley uniuqe

That is true... who IS the banner deciding god anyways??

 

[jamesbibb]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

It seems that you are onto a great site, Elad Artillery, 1820's Rifleman's, and also 1850's Marine's buttons (which is another great find) Since the Rifleman's button is quite a bit older than the other two, I'd think you're on a spot that was camped for several years. I'm looking forward to future posts I'll 2nd the banner nod on that Rifleman's, its a beauty

Thanks!! I've been struggling for a banner find for a long long time.

HA That makes 2 of us!
Sweet buttons my friend! Ill push the banner button as well!

Thanks! It's hard to sit by and watch as your friends all find amazing stuff and make the banner while you are left sitting on the sidelines. Appreciate the vote! 8)

Or finding banner worthy stuff and just not making it up there? Nice buttons BTW dig every signal in that feild it may produce something truley uniuqe

That is true... who IS the banner deciding god anyways??

LOL

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

See, you have a fine spot going here. There's definitely generations of relics at this site with the potential to produce some very very nice finds. The Riflemen's button looks alot like [Tice's RM181] with the thick symmetrical border.Great finds!

Not 181, if you look at the one in Tice's book there is a star at exactly 12:00, not so on Elad's.

I have been struggling with the backmark on the rifleman button. It looks like Albert's RF 25, but according to Albert, It should read "Armitage/Phila". Hmmm. Can you read the backmark on yours?

The backmark is really worn down... it's really hard to make anything out.as soon as I get my lazy butt out of bed I will try and make sense of it. Where are some good examples to look at?

Your back mark is ?.WOOD & Co. WARRANTED

 

[umrgolf]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

See, you have a fine spot going here. There's definitely generations of relics at this site with the potential to produce some very very nice finds. The Riflemen's button looks alot like [Tice's RM181] with the thick symmetrical border. Great finds!

Not 181, if you look at the one in Tice's book there is a star at exactly 12:00, not so on Elad's.

I have been struggling with the backmark on the rifleman button. It looks like Albert's RF 25, but according to Albert, It should read "Armitage/Phila". Hmmm. Can you read the backmark on yours?

The backmark is really worn down... it's really hard to make anything out.as soon as I get my lazy butt out of bed I will try and make sense of it. Where are some good examples to look at?

Your back mark is ?.WOOD & Co. WARRANTED

looks like WM WOOD & Co. WARRANTED (short for William?) ... never seen that one

 

[jamesbibb]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

See, you have a fine spot going here. There's definitely generations of relics at this site with the potential to produce some very very nice finds. The Riflemen's button looks alot like [Tice's RM181] with the thick symmetrical border.Great finds!

Not 181, if you look at the one in Tice's book there is a star at exactly 12:00, not so on Elad's.

I have been struggling with the backmark on the rifleman button. It looks like Albert's RF 25, but according to Albert, It should read "Armitage/Phila". Hmmm. Can you read the backmark on yours?

The backmark is really worn down... it's really hard to make anything out.as soon as I get my lazy butt out of bed I will try and make sense of it. Where are some good examples to look at?

Your back mark is ?.WOOD & Co. WARRANTED

Good eye Neil that is a small variation however.
The backmark I havent seen before.
I have an early small 1 peice eagle with an unknown backmark I found just a few months ago
This is what its all about!

 

[jamesbibb]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

See, you have a fine spot going here. There's definitely generations of relics at this site with the potential to produce some very very nice finds. The Riflemen's button looks alot like [Tice's RM181] with the thick symmetrical border. Great finds!

Not 181, if you look at the one in Tice's book there is a star at exactly 12:00, not so on Elad's.

I have been struggling with the backmark on the rifleman button. It looks like Albert's RF 25, but according to Albert, It should read "Armitage/Phila". Hmmm. Can you read the backmark on yours?

The backmark is really worn down... it's really hard to make anything out.as soon as I get my lazy butt out of bed I will try and make sense of it. Where are some good examples to look at?

Your back mark is ?.WOOD & Co. WARRANTED

looks like WM WOOD & Co. WARRANTED (short for William?) ... never seen that one

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Good call Jeff looks close- my great uncle is William Wood (Bill) LOL

 

[Elad]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

The 2 R's finally make sense!

Good thing it's warranted... so if the shank breaks off I can have it replaced! 8)

 

[{Sentinel}]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

See, you have a fine spot going here. There's definitely generations of relics at this site with the potential to produce some very very nice finds. The Riflemen's button looks alot like [Tice's RM181] with the thick symmetrical border. Great finds!

Not 181, if you look at the one in Tice's book there is a star at exactly 12:00, not so on Elad's.

That's true, however I could tell that it was not the one you pointed out [Albert's RF 25] as it did not possess an Armitage backmark. I didn't state that it was indeed that particular one, but only that its thick border looked like the one on Tices RM181; but True to fact, this particular button with this backmark is not in Tice's or Albert's book.

 

[Steve in PA]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

Wow! Now that is one sweet button!! Would love to find one. I love the early one piece (flat) military buttons!

 

[kuger]

Re: So this is what a virgin CW field is like! (BEAUTIFUL Rifleman's Button!)

It seems that you are onto a great site, Elad Artillery, 1820's Rifleman's, and also 1850's Marine's buttons (which is another great find) Since the Rifleman's button is quite a bit older than the other two, I'd think you're on a spot that was camped for several years. I'm looking forward to future posts I'll 2nd the banner nod on that Rifleman's, its a beauty

x2!!!!!

 

[SouthJerseyJim]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

Dang Dale that thing is sweet! I'm gonna vote banner because my 300 year old silver didn't make it up there at least yours still has a chance! Ill take poison ivy any day to find those goods

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

Excellent post and killer restoration on that Rifleman Button

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

William Wood & Company, ca 1830 from Philadelphia, not British if same one (most likely) b/m Wm. WOOD & CO

It is a RF25, Wood was probably a clothier/retailer who had his name put on the back of the button, which was a common practice then. Button most likely made by Armitage around 1826 or his successor William Pinchin.

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

William Wood & Company, ca 1830 from Philadelphia, not British if same one (most likely) b/m Wm. WOOD & CO

It is a RF25, Wood was probably a clothier/retailer who had his name put on the back of the button, which was a common practice then. Button most likely made by Armitage around 1826 or his successor William Pinchin.

 

[Deepdiger60]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

Excellent early finds that button is Definitely! a Banner find you have my vote Jim

 

[Elad]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

Wow! Now that is one sweet button!! Would love to find one. I love the early one piece (flat) military buttons!

The flat ones are military? (Thanks!)

Dang Dale that thing is sweet! I'm gonna vote banner because my 300 year old silver didn't make it up there at least yours still has a chance! Ill take poison ivy any day to find those goods

Thanks Jim! I woke up this morning still itching but it's so worth it, just like you said. 8)

Excellent post and killer restoration on that Rifleman Button

Thanks! It was actually really quick and easy. The sand did most of the work for me.

William Wood & Company, ca 1830 from Philadelphia, not British if same one (most likely) b/m Wm. WOOD & CO

It is a RF25, Wood was probably a clothier/retailer who had his name put on the back of the button, which was a common practice then. Button most likely made by Armitage around 1826 or his successor William Pinchin.

Thanks for the ID, Don. I know who to get in touch with for the warranty now! (seriously, thank you!)

Excellent early finds that button is Definitely! a Banner find you have my vote Jim

Thank you very much Jim! I love this hobby very much, and I am more than happy to display my best finds here. 8)

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

That is one NICE button
have dug 2 of these, but nothing like yours...
Luvitt !
Here's another vote, Lets get that Bugle up top

Thanks! Love the gargoyle... did you dig that??

He's quite fearsome !
I found him beneath a Key West Cigar rollers bungalow
during renovations, not buried, but resting under the building (along with spiders, scorpions and other nasties) which sets on coral or limestone blocks. (same as the gargoyle appears to be carved from).
I obtained a lot of unique and early prizes from both inside and outside the building while working there. The building hadn't been entered in 20 years, the owner said
'Get rid of everything', when I returned, I made a showing of all the 'Keepers',
Ms Joan was not interested. Oh, She did want her pamphlets from when she ran for city council down there.
Was pleased that I returned with something she liked
Hoping to see that Beauty of a Button up top soon !!!

 

[Elad]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

That is one NICE button
have dug 2 of these, but nothing like yours...
Luvitt !
Here's another vote, Lets get that Bugle up top

Thanks! Love the gargoyle... did you dig that??

He's quite fearsome !
I found him beneath a Key West Cigar rollers bungalow
during renovations, not buried, but resting under the building (along with spiders, scorpions and other nasties) which sets on coral or limestone blocks. (same as the gargoyle appears to be carved from).
I obtained a lot of unique and early prizes from both inside and outside the building while working there. The building hadn't been entered in 20 years, the owner said
'Get rid of everything', when I returned, I made a showing of all the 'Keepers',
Ms Joan was not interested. Oh, She did want her pamphlets from when she ran for city council down there.
Was pleased that I returned with something she liked
Hoping to see that Beauty of a Button up top soon !!!

Key West! I love that place. I went there about 10 years ago... so many bars... man was I wasted! Do you live down there?

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Went back to my new field today (BEAUTIFUL 1820's Rifleman's Militia Button!)

Yeah, Duval st is like Mardi Gras every weekend, here's a pic of the bungalow & other sights