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[Rebel - KGC]

Reb,your giving me something to consider,,. With green beer day celebrating less of hard times and more of culture,less than two decades after trail of tears a collection was taken up from some of those same people with thin purses to offer relief to the Irish during famine. i should acknowledge that eh?. An Irish ancester had a general store here,natives were part of clientele. So they helped financially enough to return the favor. interesting tie.

There was EMPATHY, yes... it CAN lead to COMPASSION.

 

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[releventchair]

There was EMPATHY, yes... it CAN lead to COMPASSION.

Good one Reb,remind me of it when we don,t agree. In case i forget.
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[Rebel - KGC]

Good one Reb,remind me of it when we don,t agree. In case i forget.
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Awww...

 

[releventchair]

Awww...

All right,back to regular scheduled program.

 

[Chadeaux]

Hey, I remember when you demeaned Russel Means as an out of date, socialist, lying red man that didn't know squat. What happened? When did the epiphany occur? Oh, and your pronouncements were back when Marc owned the site.

Who did? I surely hope you do not mean I.

 

[Chadeaux]

YES! What are YOU doing in the "here & now", PERSONALLY... to help First Nations ppl...? I, PERSONALLY help the Monacan Nation here in Virginia by advocating that the "settlement" interact more with the local white/black communities by going to and helping with local Pow Wow, set for May 18 & 19, 2013 in Elon, Virginia; wife & I have donated "gently used" items to Monacan Nation scholarship auction for young ppl to go to college; as grant researcher, I have advised the chief (know her well) of funding sources ($$$$$$$$$$$) to help native families to send their kids to college; I advised tribal ppl via the chief about scholarships programs at Virginia Tech, College of William & Mary, and UVA (I especially like VT because Monacan Nation HISTORY is "tied" to the SW Virginia area); wife & I go to the Monacan Nation Home-coming in Oct. so I can see my BOWLING family, who ARE on the Rolls. A WISE chief once said... "Let us put our minds together, to what FUTURE, we can make for our CHILDREN." TIME TO MOVE FORWARD! More, LATER...

Thank you for what you are doing. It is commendable.

I work with groups who are helping preserve our history. I do boots on the ground work when I can.

Just assimilating us into your world usually means taking away our identities as a people. Without our past, without our history, we don't know where we came from.

Similarly, without remembering the history of this country, it becomes easy to make the same mistakes over and over.

When you see things heading down a similar path, why would you expect a different result?

 

[Dano Sverige]

Thats what happens when a government(FEARS) a people dancing.Notice I said FEAR dano.The U.S. government feared the Native American ghost dancers.Thats why the socalled battle of wounded knee took place.Disarming and collecting weapons wasnt enough,giving food not fit to eat wasnt enough,now they had to outlaw a dance.They went to the reservation to collect the rest of any weapons remaining and to put down a dance.Most of the Soldiers were killed by their own artillery fire,some battle huh dano.

Once again a comment of mine seems to have been taken or twisted to mean the opposite of it's original intent. Let me try to Americanize it a little more:

"How the hell could they award 20 medals of honor for this despicable action??

Let's see how that goes now. (Rescinded or not...they WERE awarded.)

What is it with this "fear" obsession? From how i read it the white folks at the sharp end of the stick were bothered that the tribes seemed to be heading towards a unification with a possible intent of "war", due to misinterpretation of the true meaning of "the Ghost dance".
They pass on their worries to the Government and Govt says "ok, well if it bothers you that much stamp it out!".

"Thank you.....MOUNT UP BOYS!".

Fear? Did your Government "fear" the villagers at My Lai ?
Nothing more than just another excuse to mistreat and bully a people who were basically hated and in the way! JMO.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

All right,back to regular scheduled program.

LOL!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Thank you for what you are doing. It is commendable.

I work with groups who are helping preserve our history. I do boots on the ground work when I can.

Just assimilating us into your world usually means taking away our identities as a people. Without our past, without our history, we don't know where we came from.

Similarly, without remembering the history of this country, it becomes easy to make the same mistakes over and over.

When you see things heading down a similar path, why would you expect a different result?

Things are different today; "we" do not expect the forgetting of one's heritage; I have Powhatan Nation, Cherokee Nation, Melungeon Heritage, Brit & Irish Heritages; I honor them ALL. YET! I am a REAL, TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT! Virginian by birth... REBEL by the Grace of HIGHER POWER!

 

[Chadeaux]

"How the hell could they award 20 medals of honor for this despicable action??

The point once again goes over your head.

1. Government DISARMED these people.

2. Government soldiers MURDERED these people.

3. They received their medals of honor simply because they disregarded their consciences and SLAUGHTERED helpless people. I'm sure Stalin, Hitler and Castro had similar medals.

It doesn't mean America is doing this now, it is talked about to show that it has happened HERE. Therefore, it can happen here again.

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

The point once again goes over your head.

1. Government DISARMED these people.

2. Government soldiers MURDERED these people.

3. They received their medals of honor simply because they disregarded their consciences and SLAUGHTERED helpless people. I'm sure Stalin, Hitler and Castro had similar medals.

It doesn't mean America is doing this now, it is talked about to show that it has happened HERE. Therefore, it can happen here again.

Well, I DON'T THINK it CAN happen again; we have access to all kinds resources that the folks at LBH didn't have...

 

[Chadeaux]

Well, I DON'T THINK it CAN happen again; we have access to all kinds resources that the folks at LBH didn't have...

I'm sure the people of Turkey, Russia, Germany et al thought the same way.

I used to know this guy who had a big mole on his shoulder. He figured melanoma couldn't happen to him, so he ignored the possibility. Didn't work out well for him.

We see the actors in place to foist this upon us here in the U.S. - not just Native Americans, but all the people. But you don't think it could happen to us, so we'll just ignore it.

Better you think that it couldn't happen here, but you'll be on the watch to see that it doesn't rather than deny it.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck and swims like a duck --- it's obviously a moose.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I'm sure the people of Turkey, Russia, Germany et al thought the same way.

I used to know this guy who had a big mole on his shoulder. He figured melanoma couldn't happen to him, so he ignored the possibility. Didn't work out well for him.

We see the actors in place to foist this upon us here in the U.S. - not just Native Americans, but all the people. But you don't think it could happen to us, so we'll just ignore it.

HA! We are MORE "connected" than the folks of the Past; don't give a rat's arse WHERE. The "mole thing" was HIS responsibilty to get "checked out"; the friend didn't. SO... Actors...? WHO/WHERE...?

 

[Chadeaux]

HA! We are MORE "connected" than the folks of the Past; don't give a rat's arse WHERE. The "mole thing" was HIS responsibilty to get "checked out"; the friend didn't. SO... Actors...? WHO/WHERE...?

If you ignore history, regardless of how "connected" you are, you are DOOMED TO REPEAT IT!

I agree, the mole thing was his responsibility to get checked out. But you know what? The unconstitutional thing we see right now is YOUR responsibility to get checked out. You want to ignore it? How bad does it have to get? Will you only believe it when they are standing in your home?

Actors --- in an organized political move, the individuals are "actors" as each has a role to play in making the event come to fruition.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

If you ignore history, regardless of how "connected" you are, you are DOOMED TO REPEAT IT!

I agree, the mole thing was his responsibility to get checked out. But you know what? The unconstitutional thing we see right now is YOUR responsibility to get checked out. You want to ignore it? How bad does it have to get? Will you only believe it when they are standing in your home?

Actors --- in an organized political move, the individuals are "actors" as each has a role to play in making the event come to fruition.

Problem with HISTORY is... by WHOSE interpretation...? There is PRE-History, there is HISTORY, there is REVISIONIST History; "doomed to repeat it" is TRIPE, (IMHO); we are too "well-connected" by www, to be doomed; maybe ALARMED. I DO NOT "see" CAUSE FOR ALARM. (MHO). Need NAMES of actors, please.

 

[Chadeaux]

If you ignore history, regardless of how "connected" you are, you are DOOMED TO REPEAT IT!

I agree, the mole thing was his responsibility to get checked out. But you know what? The unconstitutional thing we see right now is YOUR responsibility to get checked out. You want to ignore it? How bad does it have to get? Will you only believe it when they are standing in your home?

Actors --- in an organized political move, the individuals are "actors" as each has a role to play in making the event come to fruition.

Problem with HISTORY is... by WHOSE interpretation...? There is PRE-History, there is HISTORY, there is REVISIONST History; "doomed to repeat it" is TRIPE, (IMHO); we are too "well-connected" by www, to be doomed; maybe ALARMED. I DO NOT "see" CAUSE FOR ALARM. (MHO). Need NAMES of actors, please.

In this thread, I have an excellent example.

I try to reason, and you attack with rambling incoherent statement.

I try to reason again, and once more you attack with rambling incoherent statements.

History repeats over and over. The only way to stop it for me is to put you on ignore. Don't want to do that because you do have much to contribute.

Rebel, if you are trying to appear challenged, please do it to someone else. I know you are not crazy. I know you are not stupid. I know you ARE quite intelligent.

In threads that are important to you, you have displayed that intelligence. Please grant us that favor here.

If this discussion disturbs you, you would do better to clearly explain without the sarcasm what it is that disturbs you. Rather than stirring up others whom you disagree with, why not try to win them over with reason.

Ball's in your court.

Have a great day.

 

[packerbacker]

ANY comment I could make here would make me sound like a racist so I'll just move along. I'll just say I'm not a big fan of giving, giving and more giving. It just makes people dependents of a perceived generosity and guilt payment.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

In this thread, I have an excellent example.

I try to reason, and you attack with rambling incoherent statement.

I try to reason again, and once more you attack with rambling incoherent statements.

History repeats over and over. The only way to stop it for me is to put you on ignore. Don't want to do that because you do have much to contribute.

Rebel, if you are trying to appear challenged, please do it to someone else. I know you are not crazy. I know you are not stupid. I know you ARE quite intelligent.

In threads that are important to you, you have displayed that intelligence. Please grant us that favor here.

If this discussion disturbs you, you would do better to clearly explain without the sarcasm what it is that disturbs you. Rather than stirring up others whom you disagree with, why not try to win them over with reason.

Ball's in your court.

Have a great day.

NOT playing BB game here... NOT attacking; asking questions... NO sarcasm. Where are "rambling incoherent statements"? Can CLARIFY if you want...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

ANY comment I could make here would make me sound like a racist so I'll just move along. I'll just say I'm not a big fan of giving, giving and more giving. It just makes people dependents of a perceived generosity and guilt payment.

You mean, when you pay your taxes...?