WARD BASED HIS STORY ON ORIGINAL "THE BEALE PAPERS" PUBLISHED 1850

[Old Silver]

I believe we have covered this many, many times on this and on other threads, with all the sources cited, and with those in 1884/1885 Lynchburg who were involved in the creation, copyrighting, printing, publishing, advertising, and selling of the dime novel job pamphlet.
Old Silver, you continue to post the same old sliver one liner comments, without offering any proof than can disprove what is posted.
If you can not offer anything to counter what is presented except for the harassing one liners you are prone to post, take the advice of the Beale Papers "unknown author", "let the matter alone".

And I can say the same to you - If you can not offer anything to counter what is presented, but to continue your harassment of all who don't agree with you, take the advice of the Beale Papers, and everyone here you have harassed over the years and "let the matter alone".

 

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[TN_Guest1523]

As with the only source of Beale meeting Morriss is the 1885 Beale Papers, the only source of Hart meeting with James Beverly Ward and son is the HART PAPERS, which you don't like.
Both are self contained parts of their stories, nothing less, nothing more.
Martha Rivers Adams's interview with Ward's daughter, Adeline Ward McVeigh, which appeared in the LYNCHBURG NEWS during the 1930's, is independent of both of those works and is quite revealing about her father's role in the creation of the Beale story.

So, have you seen this Martha Rivers Adams's interview ? Put it up !
So, have you seen the proof of death for Captain Thomas Beale Sr ? Put it up !

If you can't ...............

 

[TN_Guest1523]

I believe we have covered this many, many times on this and on other threads, with all the sources cited, and with those in 1884/1885 Lynchburg who were involved in the creation, copyrighting, printing, publishing, advertising, and selling of the dime novel job pamphlet.
Old Silver, you continue to post the same old sliver one liner comments, without offering any proof than can disprove what is posted.
If you can not offer anything to counter what is presented except for the harassing one liners you are prone to post, take the advice of the Beale Papers "unknown author", "let the matter alone".

Let's see, in 1822 we have letters from Beale to Morriss .
Also we have a box of information left by Beale in 1822 .
E F Beale's Book was about 1850 5 years after Morriss opened the box .
If we use math, we find that it is more possible that E F Beale used information about the Beale story in his own story .

 

[franklin]

Not possible. Now you are taking possible history and over-riding real history. That never works.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Not possible. Now you are taking possible history and over-riding real history. That never works.

Just saying it was more possible for E F Beale to have that information based on date of documents, and he is family with Captain Thomas Beale Sr so it is possible for him to know of the Beale Party of the 1817-1829 era . You guy's have always said that the families must have known of the Beale expedition and I am sure that E F Beale knew of it .

 

[franklin]

No one has proven yet that the Beale Expedition ever happened, although we do know what EF Beale accomplished as it is history.

 

[ECS]

And I can say the same to you - If you can not offer anything to counter what is presented, but to continue your harassment of all who don't agree with you, take the advice of the Beale Papers, and everyone here you have harassed over the years and "let the matter alone".

Congratulations on another ridiculous retort of self justification.

 

[ECS]

So, have you seen this Martha Rivers Adams's interview ? Put it up !
So, have you seen the proof of death for Captain Thomas Beale Sr ? Put it up !

If you can't ...............

I will after you put up the solved ciphers you have been bragging about for two years.
If you can't ...............

 

[Old Silver]

Congratulations on another ridiculous retort of self justification.

It was a repeat of what you said, just turned back on you. Ridiculous?

 

[Old Silver]

So, have you seen this Martha Rivers Adams's interview ? Put it up !
So, have you seen the proof of death for Captain Thomas Beale Sr ? Put it up !

If you can't ...............

Don't expect him to ever show any real evidence. He likes to make claims, but when asked to show it instead of tell it, he never does. Yet, his empty claims continue.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

No one has proven yet that the Beale Expedition ever happened, although we do know what EF Beale accomplished as it is history.

I think you are right that E F Beale is a good proof of his story . Just as the Beale Papers are to the TJB story .
But you have to think if E F Beale did know about the TJB story it may have driven him to do what he did . He must have known something about the TJB adventure . Possibly he may have some mention of it somewhere in his journals . Just seems to be some connection there as ECS has mentioned .

 

[TN_Guest1523]

I will after you put up the solved ciphers you have been bragging about for two years.
If you can't ...............

A line from the Epitaph I found in the Cipher

( DEAD THAT GRAND FRET WE FIGHT SEND ME FAITH O LORD WE SOW THERE AS WE SET THERE A OF ALL REST DEAD IT SEEMS )

 

[ECS]

Don't expect him to ever show any real evidence. He likes to make claims, but when asked to show it instead of tell it, he never does. Yet, his empty claims continue.

...as well as your never ending thread jacking and harassment.

 

[ECS]

A line from the Epitaph I found in the Cipher

( DEAD THAT GRAND FRET WE FIGHT SEND ME FAITH O LORD WE SOW THERE AS WE SET THERE A OF ALL REST DEAD IT SEEMS )

Notice how the supplied DOI solved C2 flows coherently with structured sentences, while your "found epitaph" does not?
That supports Bigscoop's comment on solved cipher expectations.

 

[Old Silver]

...as well as your never ending thread jacking and harassment.

Everyone can see your continual harassment of every poster here who doesn't think like you do. It's all here to see.

 

[Old Silver]

Notice how the supplied DOI solved C2 flows coherently with structured sentences, while your "found epitaph" does not?
That supports Bigscoop's comment on solved cipher expectations.

It also supports what we've said about you. You said you'd post yours if Laf would post his. Looks like it's your turn.

 

[ECS]

I will after you put up the solved ciphers you have been bragging about for two years.
If you can't ...............

Notice I mentioned "solved ciphers", that's plural, and a disjointed epitaph in not a complete cipher by any definition.

 

[Old Silver]

Notice I mentioned "solved ciphers", that's plural, and a disjointed epitaph in not a complete cipher by any definition.

Nice backpedal.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Notice I mentioned "solved ciphers", that's plural, and a disjointed epitaph in not a complete cipher by any definition.

He sounds like the radio people I have talked to about the Beale Ciphers, just a bait and switch move .

 

[franklin]

I wish everyone would just post information. I don't know about others but I don't like ping pong matches or tennis matches---back and forth, back and forth it is messing up every thread on the Beale Treasure. Can we at least agree to get along whether we agree or disagree. I have had just about enough. May move on. To heck with it.