Victorian buckle and ???

[HutSiteDigger]

Is that a Victorian buckle and what is the 2nd artifact? The 2nd artifact was about 10-12 inches in the ground, and was probably one of the deepest artifacts i've detected out in the Northern Neck of Va - it gave off the slightest whisper.. The soil out in the northern neck is really rich soil which is good for artifacts..

 

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[DCMatt]

We've been identifying these as bed post bolt covers on this forum for years. Makes me wonder if we've totally blown it on other relics. We probably have, but I know we do the best we can...

Good thread.

DCMatt

 

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[creskol]

Cres....it appears this item doesnt have an inset back,which I would think a bolt cover would have?I dunno?

CBG,that is/was exactly my thinking as well....never having seen a Colonial rossette atached to a period Bridal,I digressed.
Great conversation folks....THANKS!!!!

Generally speaking, the bolts were countersunk into the bedpost and were used to hold the siderail of the bed on. The covers were merely a decorative appliance used to conceal the hole.

 

[HomeGuardDan]

100% late 1700's boss. They seems to be the most common style that I have dug at colonial sites. Bill D is correct.

 

[kuger]

100% late 1700's boss. They seems to be the most common style that I have dug at colonial sites. Bill D is correct.

O.K.,well,are they boss's or Rossettes?There is a difference....

 

[creskol]

O.K.,well,are they boss's or Rossettes?There is a difference....

I know that these things look like bit bosses, and I also know that they look like bolt covers. From what I gather, all these bit bosses were a cast copper alloy. If you look at the one posted by the OP, it looks like it is a skin over an iron inset. I am not familiar with bosses of that archetecture, hence I said it was a bolt cover.

Kuger .. take a look at this photo . shows the boss pretty well! Who is the boss, anyway

 

[kuger]

No kidding Rob!Bill's book shows two,what I see as Boss's,and the book says one is a Boss(goes on a bit)and the other is a rosette(leather decoration...usually on a bridal/head stall)....I would like to see a Colonial Bridal with one of these functioning as a rosette

 

[FoundInNC]

This image shows a boss broken just the same as yours......
http://metaldetectingforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=240401&stc=1&d=1381071238

 

[kuger]

This image shows a boss broken just the same as yours......
http://metaldetectingforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=240401&stc=1&d=1381071238

Boss or rosette?

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

There was a nice discussion on this thread a while back about colonial rosettes. I recently ran across a website that has a number of pics and dates for examples that have been recovered and thought some might like to check it out.

Diagnostic Artifacts - Small Finds - Bridle Bosses

 

[kuger]

There was a nice discussion on this thread a while back about colonial rosettes. I recently ran across a website that has a number of pics and dates for examples that have been recovered and thought some might like to check it out.

Diagnostic Artifacts - Small Finds - Bridle Bosses

Bill,I beleive we just found out the confusion.........just as I originally stated...the item in question looked like a Boss.....not a Rossette........the ones in your link are BOSS'........are you confusing the two?

 

[creskol]

There was a nice discussion on this thread a while back about colonial rosettes. I recently ran across a website that has a number of pics and dates for examples that have been recovered and thought some might like to check it out.

Diagnostic Artifacts - Small Finds - Bridle Bosses

That is a great site .. I referenced it in a previous post in this thread.
However, I am still trying to understand what appears to be a steel inset in the OP's item.