Updated, probable ID...A few finds and I need some ID help...

Bavaria Mike

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I can't get a 100% ID on it but doubt it is Roman. Refering to the last 2 pics. Received a few ideas and possibilities on other detecting forums and it's been IDed as a Rechenpfennig (Accounting Token) it had no actual value but was a symbol to represent a value while using an abacus. There were many different styles made, some symbolize businesses, Moneyers, Kings etc. Estimated date of the token is late 1500s to early 1700s. The Spiel Marken is also a token. All I came up with so far. HH, Mike

Two hunts on a fresh plowed field, about 4 hours worth of detecting.? It fortunately rained and compacted the fresh plowing a bit.? Found a few unusual finds and I need some ID help.? Here?s what I found:? Some of the lead finds, 5 musket balls and 3 lead seals.
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A few relics and a real nice ornate black glass bead that came up with a silver coin
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Obverse of a Spiel Marken, not sure if it is play money or a token, this side shows a rampant horse to the right.
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Reverse, in the middle of the reef it says ?Spiel Marken? it looks like a few beer tokens I?ve found.
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I?m certain this is a coin, the edge is reeded, the date at the top reads 1893 FOAA, I can make out a 3 at the top of the inner circle, there is also a word below the 3 but I can?t make it out or anything else about the coin.? The reverse is smooth and not worth a photo.
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Obverse of a small 1760 silver 1 Kreuzer coin.
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Reverse of the 1760, date at the bottom reads ?17 1 60? the 1 is the denomination of the coin.
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This is a very mysterious coin I found today, looks almost Roman, the legend reads ?Honos Alit?.? Appears to be a copper but could be a weak bronze.? I need help IDing this coin.
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Reverse of the coin, shows a rooster, the legend reads ??????? ARMORVM VICIDES?? Any help on the ID would be appreciated.? HH and thanks for looking, Mike
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Re: A few finds and I need some ID help...

Awesome Finds! Some interesting coins... I do know that "Honos Alit Artes" is Latin for "Honor Nourishes The Arts". Maybe the "Artes" was on the botton part of the coin...
 

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Nice finds.......where are you that you are finding such old stuff?

Wyatt
 

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Awesome finds!! Not sure on the coins, that
spiel marken might be a coin but not sure.
Heres something on a site:

GERMANY, Bs18, ND, horse galloping R, MIT FROHEN MUTH / SPIEL MARKEN in wreath, c. 1820s-40s, aVF $8.50
GERMANY, Bs17, ND, winged caduceus & scales / SPIEL MARKE in wreath, early 19th c., XF $8.50
 

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Great finds!! Really don't know on the coins. The last one, with it's off center strike, IS resemblent to many of the Roman coins. But you might want to check Greek also. WTG!! HH
 

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Great finds! Must be nice to have the possibility of finding such historic coinage in farm fields. Most areas here are paved over that have any chance. nice pics.
 

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Mike,

Your finds are always fabulous! I'm Jealous!! I'll be in Innsbruck in July....I'm bringing my CZ! You close by? 8)
 

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Excellent finds Mike!

HH

Lonewolfe
 

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Really neat finds! Very interesting.
 

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Your unknown coin is Russian 1 or 2 kopeka. In my foto only diferent years.
 

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Re: A few finds and I need some ID help...

Wow!!! Mike, them are some really nice finds, WTG!!!
That " Spiel Marken " coin/token looks similar to one I found awhile back. They called them Store cards here in the states and they were used during the Civil war. I'm not sure if that's what your is, or not, but it might be a start...
Good luck & Happy hunting~
 

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ctalmadg said:
Awesome Finds! Some interesting coins... I do know that "Honos Alit Artes" is Latin for "Honor Nourishes The Arts". Maybe the "Artes" was on the botton part of the coin...
Thanks ctalmadg, looks like the people on the coin are holding musical instruments. Innsbruck is a good 4 hours from here. Too bad you will be there in July, all the fields will be planted. Grass hay fields and forests will probably be your best detecting areas. Do some research, maybe you can find a forest where some WWII battles were fought, should be close to Innsbruck. HH, Mike

whites6000inPa said:
Nice finds.......where are you that you are finding such old stuff?
Wyatt
I'm in Germany, originally from Ohio.

Jake- Thanks for the help

KREDEK- Thank you for the ID help, much appreciated!!!
 

Re: A few finds and I need some ID help...

Great finds Mike!! :o When are you going to make it back down this way?
 

Re: A few finds and I need some ID help...

Wow.............I'm speechless. Awesome finds!

Happy Hunting!

Moon
 

Updated probable ID. HH, Mike
 

Just awesome! :o

Nana ;)
 

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