UPDATE on my colonial signet ring find from Friday

Bill D. (VA)

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Went back yesterday to check with the farmer with my friend Chuck about plowing a small but very productive early colonial site in this huge field we've been hunting on and off for the last 10+ years. He had promised he would do that and had us flag the area a couple weeks ago, and we had agreed to pay him for his time and fuel. But he has not been responding to phone calls or texts, so we stopped by his house yesterday. He appeared to be home but wouldn't answer the door, so guess he's changed his mind. That was pretty disappointing as we've recovered quite a few pieces of early silver here, including a cut piece from a pine tree shilling, but guess we'll have to move on. While there we decided to wander in the fields a bit and weren't having any luck so I decided to hit another small colonial site we had stumbled across 5-6 years ago about 300-400 yards from the other site. The first pic below is the stuff I found back in May 2007 in this spot with my old MXT. I slowed down and hunted hard in the iron patch trying to coax out a few more keepers. The first decent signal I got was a deep high tone, and I was surprised to see a very old ring come from about 10-12" down. It has some unusual markings on the front and its quite heavy. Not sure if this dates to pre-1800 or not but its definitely a cool find. The next hour or so I dug a boatload of tacks and a couple buttons and buckle pieces. Still have a lot of ground to cover so a return trip is in order. Only one piece of cut silver came from here before, but I have a feeling there's more.
 

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A wax seal signet ring from the 17th century.

American Colonial relic hunting at it's finest.

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Bill - just curious, which detector were you using this time?
 

I have had a number of 17th C Fluer-de-lis Seal Matrix with this design, below is a similar one but there are lots of variants of the same theme.

Just type 'fleur-de-lis seal matrix' into google images & see all the similar examples of the design.
 

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Very nice Ring Bill,& well worth a banner for here in the U.S..I always like seeing your post because most of your finds I can relate too other then them dang old coins. :wink: :D But otherwise I see things from you that our very early much like some finds I've made that have gone unnoticed,And these type finds are NOT your everyday type stuff.They are pushing the time line of when things were first being settled here.And is only likely to be found in a few places here in the U.S..Your ring is one of those items to me I agree that it could be older then 17th century more like 16th,it matches in style of one found here on the coast of N.C. & could be traced possibly back to the family that owned it.And even dated.I've got a couple things one day that I would like to get dated but were I live it's quite far from any place able to do such test.I would think maybe someone up there around you could do it with all the sites & digs that's gone on up your way.Below are some sites to show you what I mean..................also notice to see rings of that style on the UK site you need to look in the later medieval time frame.
Take Care,
Pete, :hello:
Uk-site.....rings,
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=117&page=2
The 16th century ring found here on the coast of N.C. sites..............
http://www.lost-colony.com/galleryside.html
http://the-lost-colony.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html



Also you can see that the rings from the 1600's bands are nowhere near the thickness of yours in the trade,& jesuit ring types.
Here.........
http://www.bobsphotogallery.com/gallery2/v/FurTrade/rings/
 

Timekiller said:
Very nice Ring Bill,& well worth a banner for here in the U.S..I always like seeing your post because most of your finds I can relate too other then them dang old coins. :wink: :D But otherwise I see things from you that our very early much like some finds I've made that have gone unnoticed,And these type finds are NOT your everyday type stuff.They are pushing the time line of when things were first being settled here.And is only likely to be found in a few places here in the U.S..Your ring is one of those items to me I agree that it could be older then 17th century more like 16th,it matches in style of one found here on the coast of N.C. & could be traced possibly back to the family that owned it.And even dated.I've got a couple things one day that I would like to get dated but were I live it's quite far from any place able to do such test.I would think maybe someone up there around you could do it with all the sites & digs that's gone on up your way.Below are some sites to show you what I mean..................also notice to see rings of that style on the UK site you need to look in the later medieval time frame.
Take Care,
Pete, :hello:
Uk-site.....rings,
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=117&page=2
The 16th century ring found here on the coast of N.C. sites..............
http://www.lost-colony.com/galleryside.html
http://the-lost-colony.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html



Also you can see that the rings from the 1600's bands are nowhere near the thickness of yours in the trade,& jesuit ring types.
Here.........
http://www.bobsphotogallery.com/gallery2/v/FurTrade/rings/

Thanks for the info and links Pete. I see we share an interest in all things colonial. Some of the others don't know what they're missing. HH .... Bill
 

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