Pa.Billy
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UPDATE: I took a trip down to Fort Ligonier Museum today, it's only about an half hour from my place. Beforehand I arranged by
phone to meet with the museum curator there, Brad Mooney, he also works part time as historical restoration specialist of
Heritage Restorations in Ligonier, he's the owner of this company. He told me he has 35 years of experience in local
archeology. He looked at the stone and said within 10 seconds that the groove that continued almost 3/4 of the way around
the stone was shaped by man and not naturally occurring. He could not say that any other part of the stone was shaped by man
nor could he say it wasn't, his focus for the 10 minute inspection was on grooved section. He could not say who shaped it
but when I told him exactly where I found it (cairn, a man made pile of rocks)and I suggested the groove was the neck he
shook his head and said most likely the best scenario. You connect the dots, worked stone on top of a cairn pile, looks
like it could be a native American,plenty of other stone placement in the area characteristic of indian activity.....
I asked him if he would make a YouTube video on the spot there and he said "yes I would mind" I then asked him if I could
quote him and he said why? I told him some internet forums was dismissing the post because it was without very
much merit because it did not appear to be worked, he said "get used to it"
Within 200 yards of this cairn is numerous rock piles, most with unmistakable tell tale signs of
native American stone placement such as videos below which show a probable non-worked
Manitou stone (left) in the first video with a unmistakable niche (rock propping up another rock)
right beside it, all this on a 15 ft wide cairn or rock pile.
The second video is more Indian rock structure building, note what looks like a headstone
almost in the first part of the video and then a series of large rocks placed in a row.
This is one of 2 large 4-5 ft high
"Standing Stones" found on opposite hillsides facing a burial ground. The closet one to
the manitou bust is only about 2 tenth of a mile away as the crow flies. I point these large standing to show
that these cairns don't exist in a vacuum
unworked manitou stone (left) and niche (right)
I've been searching this area behind my uncles place since I found rock piles there on April 24th. I've been exploring the place 3-4 times a week to try and stay ahead of loggers who look ready to descend on the land in a matter of weeks or months. This was found laying on top of a cairn, sort of upside down. It weighs in at 35 pounds (looks like there's some iron ore in it) and stands 11 1/2 inches high.
Here is the video below of the initial find 2 days ago,at the time I mistook the flatter back side to be the front but it obviously is not.
phone to meet with the museum curator there, Brad Mooney, he also works part time as historical restoration specialist of
Heritage Restorations in Ligonier, he's the owner of this company. He told me he has 35 years of experience in local
archeology. He looked at the stone and said within 10 seconds that the groove that continued almost 3/4 of the way around
the stone was shaped by man and not naturally occurring. He could not say that any other part of the stone was shaped by man
nor could he say it wasn't, his focus for the 10 minute inspection was on grooved section. He could not say who shaped it
but when I told him exactly where I found it (cairn, a man made pile of rocks)and I suggested the groove was the neck he
shook his head and said most likely the best scenario. You connect the dots, worked stone on top of a cairn pile, looks
like it could be a native American,plenty of other stone placement in the area characteristic of indian activity.....
I asked him if he would make a YouTube video on the spot there and he said "yes I would mind" I then asked him if I could
quote him and he said why? I told him some internet forums was dismissing the post because it was without very
much merit because it did not appear to be worked, he said "get used to it"
Within 200 yards of this cairn is numerous rock piles, most with unmistakable tell tale signs of
native American stone placement such as videos below which show a probable non-worked
Manitou stone (left) in the first video with a unmistakable niche (rock propping up another rock)
right beside it, all this on a 15 ft wide cairn or rock pile.
The second video is more Indian rock structure building, note what looks like a headstone
almost in the first part of the video and then a series of large rocks placed in a row.
This is one of 2 large 4-5 ft high
"Standing Stones" found on opposite hillsides facing a burial ground. The closet one to
the manitou bust is only about 2 tenth of a mile away as the crow flies. I point these large standing to show
that these cairns don't exist in a vacuum
unworked manitou stone (left) and niche (right)
I've been searching this area behind my uncles place since I found rock piles there on April 24th. I've been exploring the place 3-4 times a week to try and stay ahead of loggers who look ready to descend on the land in a matter of weeks or months. This was found laying on top of a cairn, sort of upside down. It weighs in at 35 pounds (looks like there's some iron ore in it) and stands 11 1/2 inches high.
Here is the video below of the initial find 2 days ago,at the time I mistook the flatter back side to be the front but it obviously is not.
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Sometimes, it's better to take pictures of finds of a Spiritual nature and leave the artifact there. But...........
