United Airlines DC-6 Flight 624

[jeff of pa]

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Jeff,
Great story. I was born up there a year after the crash and growing up, I heard many stories from relatives in the area. They reported that quite a few diamonds and diamond rings were found by locals at the crash site.

Yes in talking to the People up there,
I heard many of those stories also.

Detectors didn't exist, so they used Screens

 

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[Pulltab Parson]

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All I can say is WOW!

This is what I would consider the major leagues of Metal Detecting. If there was ever a time when MDing needed heros, you guy are it!!

Bravo Zulu!!

 

[Wasabi]

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Wow Jeff,
That must have been an amazing hunt, I think it would be a bit erie being there knowing that all those people died in that plane crash. Must have been something to hunt it though and probably a lot of digging from the wreckage.
Looks like you found quite a bit of history though.

 

[jeff of pa]

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Wow Jeff,
That must have been an amazing hunt, I think it would be a bit erie being there knowing that all those people died in that plane crash. Must have been something to hunt it though and probably a lot of digging from the wreckage.
Looks like you found quite a bit of history though.

What just came to mind

The most Eerie thing for me was, we were searching on
June 17, 2003, 25 years to the day, & I remember a plane
Flying over the area, and remember commenting to Rich
about it.
It was just Coincidence, no connection,
However,
a day or two Before one of the TV stations flew over in a Chopper
trying to Match the Flight path for a news story.

No we didn't do an Interview, but the land owners did.

 

[jeff of pa]

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Jeff:

The silver broach... does it say "Palma Picasso" on the back? It looks like something I saw.

Mark

No it Dosn't Mark

 

[jeff of pa]

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Sorry I can't get a clear Pic or Scan
but in the Circle it has

gK co
and under it STERLING

 

[Steve in Michigan]

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Jeff,

Check this site out. Is this the broach?

http://www.mimideeartwear.com/items/308263/item308263store.html#item

Congratulations on your finds. Look forward to reading more!

Your Friend,

Steve in Michigan

 

[jeff of pa]

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WOW Very Close Steve.

Different shape
mine went through the Crash, so it could be bent.

but definately the same designer.

Mine appears different at the Bottom on how it's Connected.
May be an earlier version of the one shown, since mine is Definately pre 48

Mine



Theirs





mine back



Definately Same manufacturer

 

[olegator01]

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Jeff of PA, Hello from a most recient MDer. Jeff, I just read your story of Flight 624 and it
brought back some vivid memories of my memories of WWII. I was approx. 7years old when it started and living in the middle of Fl's Everglades. (my father being a bridge builder) I was born and lived for a short time in the Springhead section (Hillsborough County) and 8 miles south of Plant City, FL. During WWII, We had several occasions of B-17's crashing due to sabotours works. From what I can remember were esponiage agents. (Germans) I went to one such crash site and (not alone, but with a few other guys in the neighborhood) we found a lot of aluminum A/C parts (1 engine, parts from the verticle stabilizer, etc.). The Army Air Corps didn't get a lot of the parts until weeks later. Walking around this site (I don't remember exactly who, exclaimed "Hey, here's a watch", he reached reached down and to our dismay was a hand and part of an arm with the watch still attached. A site I'll never forget.
We got the H--l out of there, went home and told 1 of the guys father about it and I guess he got ahold of the AAC and they removed it and we were told to not go near any sites again. so
of course we didn't. Too scared, truth be known.

All I can say after reading your post, it's about the coolist posts I've read since joining up with all of you. It's been one of the most enjoyable times I've had for years. I've seen the most kindness, closeness, respect and camaraderie and feelings for others I've only seen in my
previous time in the military. Thanks for your insight and your finds(+ witticism). Take care,HH and hope to see much more from you and your friend in the future. As always,
olegator Am sorry if I offended ANYONE about the B-17 crash site, but it was the reality of war. And just to say that all the crosses in graveyards with servicemen's/womens names on them are my HERO's. Just my 2cents worth. olegator

 

[jeff of pa]

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First let me Give you a Late Welcome to TNet gator.
Your Expierence, although a bit Harrowing I'm sure,
Was still Intresting to read. Not sure I would want to
Expierence that myself :P
Thanks for the Nice Comments, and just an Addition.
From what I was told yesterday,
This search, although Over,
May have additional outgrowth.
and Details will be added when Available.

 

[roundhat]

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kinda creepy but better recovered than destroyed by the mining company.

 

[Baldingboy]

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Jeff,

Fantastic reading! I thouroughly enjoyed seeing your finds. That is what is so exciting about the hobby; we get to preserve history. Very cool indeed!!! Thanks for sharing.

Baldingboy

 

[LadyDigger]

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I know you hunted this site already and you may already have these articles...but I will post incase you don't.

 

[BARGuy]

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GOOD JOB...GOOD JOB!

This was the third time I've read this thread & I get something new each time. This should be required reading for anyone remotely interested in our "sport".

Thank You!

DR

 

[BobRush]

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I live in Numidia and I am doing a book on Centralia and have researched the 624 crash but have not been able to locate the site. Does anyone have the GPS settings? What I would really like to do is to meet with anyone that has been to the site to get their input.

Bob Rush

 

[jeff of pa]

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Welcome Bob

if you turn West at the Church in aristis
and travel about a Mile till you see the
"WELCOME to WILBURTON" Sign

The site is right there where the sign is
you just walk in there and the Whole mountain Side
is the Debris Field.
the Power Station was at the bottom of that mountain
just accross a Small dirt Road.

Sorry no GPS settings

The owners are very Friendly, But Permission to
enter the Property is Necessary.
And can usually be obtained
At a Dirt Road a few hundred feet before the Wilburton Sign.

 

[Hiram Abiff]

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Wow thats an absolute beautiful masonic ring! It looks like it could be handmade possibly?

 

[crazyjarhead]

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A bitter sweet story. Maybe you will find the missing loot.

 

[Purrdee]

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Due to the Fact I have now heard from 3 people related to persons on board. I am listing the complete list of those onboard.

Capt. George Warner Jr. Age 35 Pilot Westmont Ill.
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Richard C. Schember Age 26 First Officer Elgin, Ill
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Nancy L. Brown Age 24 Stewardess Fort Myers, Florida
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Lorena R. Berg Age 28 Stewardess Woodstock, Ill.
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Earl Carroll Age 54 Restaurant/Nightclub Owner, Theatrical Producer Hollywood, Calif.
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Venita Varden (Oakie) Age ?? Former Follies Girl, New York Actress, ex wife of Comedian Jack Oakie Hollywood Calif.
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Beryl Wallace Age ?? Actress,Earl Carrol's Lead Showgirl, Radio, Movie & TV Star Hollywood, Calif
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E, George Von Sebo Age ?? Head of Warehousing & Merchandising for Devoe & Reynolds (Paint) Bronxville,
New York
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Parker W. Silzer Age 48 Asst. Head of Warehousing & Merchandising for Devoe & Reynolds (Paint) and only son of Governor George S. Silzer of N.J. Metuchen,New Jersey
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Mrs. Alta Gwinn Saunders Age ?? Professor Buisness English since 1919, University of Ill. Urbana,ILINOIS
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Hugh McCloskey Age 32 Attorney, Texaco Oil Long Island, New York
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Lieutnant Commander C.S. Avery Age ?? U.S. Navy S.F. Calif.
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Nathan Berke Age ?? Merchant, Berke Bakeries Brooklyn, N.Y.
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Ernest Winckoff Age ?? Berke Bakeries Brooklyn, N.Y.
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Rowland/ Ronald Brown Age ?? Auditor, Brown Brothers Harriman Co. Wall street N.Y.
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Arther B. Smith Age ?? Department Head Brown Brothers Harriman Co. Wall streetBrooklyn N.Y.
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Frank Campi Age ??San Jose, California
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Henry L. Jackson Age ?? Fashion Editor : Collier's Magazine, Field & Stream, fashion editor "Mens Reporter" Founder ESQUIRE Magazine White Plains, N.Y.
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Walter A. Kendall Age 50 Head of Store Planning
W.T. Grant Co. Scarsdale,N.Y.
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David Marcus Age ?? President Golden Edge Fabrics Co. Ill. Jamaica, Queens,N.Y.
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Joy Marcus Age ?? Wife of David Marcus Jamaica, Queens,N.Y.
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Mrs. L.O. Weiser (Rita) Age ?? Chicago,Illinois
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A. Stewart Angus Age 50 Attorney Texas Oil San Francisco , Calif.
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Anthony G. De Vito Age 38 Fred Bear Company Brooklyn, N.Y.
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Hans Joachim Age ?? American Transul Co. S.F. Calif San Fransisco , Calif.
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Rudolpf G. Harvey or R. Harvey Palmer Age ??
Associate Recotron Corp. New York City
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H.L. Slater Age ?? Cardinal Electronics Corp. New York City
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Miss Kay Thorpe AGE 15 Daughter of Bud Thorpe, N.B.C. Chicago Staff Announcer Omaha. Nebraska
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E. Hinchliff or Hanchliff age ?? Vice Pres. Burson Knitting Mills Rockford, Ill.
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George W. Rogers Age 33 Sales Mgr. Fountain Supplies, Lamont Corliss & Co. New York City
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Yves Le Corre Age ?? Doctor, Paris France
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Thomas J. Gallagher Age 27 Trucking & warehouse firm official Bryn Mawr, PA
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Lawrence Dieringer Age ?? Vice Pres. L.K. Comstock Electric New York Dumont N.J.
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R.B. Stewart Age ?? L.K. Comstock Electric New York N.Y.
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Nathan V. Pessin Age 53 Market Executive Los Angeles, calif
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George H.M. Harries Age 37 Secretary & assistant Treasurer Bally Ribbon Mills Inc. Boyertown , PA
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Betty L. Harries Age 32 Wife of George Boyertown , PA
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Remo Bufano Age 54 Actor, Puppeteer, Marionette Producer New York City
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William Casmer (Cosmer) Age ?? New York City
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Albert W. Stempel Age ?? Stratford , Connecticut
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Paul March (Marchi) Age 32 Sacramento, Calif.
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Toni Marcus (INFANT) AGE 8 Months Daughter of David & Joy Marcus
Jamaica, Queens, New York
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the Weiser Infant Age ?? Chicago, Illinois
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I know this is an old post..but...it's so sad to know that these kinds of accidents happen...but becomes very poignant (sp) when names are put with the incident....
Wow.

 

[sabre15]

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What a good read, I wish you would of taken the property owner up on digging up the wreckage, who knows what got cought up in the bulldozer debris, rings, diamonds, $250000 wrapped up?