Unidentified silver and brass relic

[triley41395]

Been trying to I.D. this object and no one seems to know but several have recommended posting it here. It was found in a field in Ohio by a friend with other coins and relics. The coins range in date from the oldest being 1820 to the newest being 1865. The buttons range from Tombacs to CW era buttons. By the color of the brass I think the tip has got to be silver.Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks

 

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[wainzoid]

how about a cigarette holder? sorry, just thinking out loud

 

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[CoilyGirl]

I have no clue,not enough coffee to guess but just wanted to say "good morning all."

 

[JRMan]

Great item to start up a lively conversation.. This thread was so entertaining I forgot what the item by the time I got finished reading..

 

[bigfoot1]

just an avenue for research...pravaz 1860 syringe pictured...

 

[Lafitte Deux]

Triley41395, welcome to TNet!

Length and diameter of the object would help limit the possibilities.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I have to agree with Bigcypresshunter.
Misleading ID's only mislead us. Wild guesses are more than welcome. Yet, a proper identification calls for proper authentication.

Exactly. I notice 2 members clicked "like" on GMD52s reply but you notice I didnt because there was no supporting pic. It cannot be marked solved. I think several members agreed with the ID but have no idea what a valve stem looks like. Tell me how can you agree with an ID when you dont even know what an antique valve stem looks like? What good does it do posting pics of valve stem caps? This only causes a waste of time and space and makes this forum look very amateur.

Thanks for allowing me to rant. Everyone involved seems to be a good sport. Since the item is not solved, wild guesses are welcome as long as we know they are wild guesses.. Bad guesses will most likely just be ignored but a good lead, like GMD52s, requires detective work to follow up and find a matching pic. .But if you have no idea the difference between a valve stem, cap, or gauge, its kinda hard to be of any help and you should probablly bow out of this one and wait for the next. Think of making quality posts not a quantity of childish jibberish.

BTW has anyone searched for Model T valve stems that match or was GMD52s tip a waste of time? I am not familiar with GMD52s other posts so I dont know if his word is good. You will notice some members word is better than others and this is also very true in life. We have no choice but to require authentication. I tried searching the site but should I spend more than an hour?.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

just an avenue for research...pravaz 1860 syringe pictured...View attachment 787868

a possibility worth researching.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Well all I can add to this item is, it's a handle...to something and not a valve stem/cap/cover...

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

yea silver kinda rules out valve stem

 

[mical66]

just a quick comment BigC. maybe i am wrong but some times i click like because i like the way the poster is thinking , like if they think out side of the box and come up with a idea thats way out there but still possible , i do not only like if i agree that is the right guess.....maybe i like the like button to much ,,,lol

 

[CoilyGirl]

I like that you like the like button.

 

[GpSnoopy]

I'll just put out another wild arse guess. Handle for a magnifying glass or something similar? The handle would have slipped over the rod attached to the glass frame and an end cap tightened it all up.

 

[mical66]

yea snoop now that is a good idea , that would account for their being no threads on either end,,it could be a sleeve type handle...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

That is a valve stem from a early automobile, the same that was found on the Ford Model T. They are sought by collectors, Check the home page for the " Horseless Carriage " assoc. They have a good classified section open to all to buy and sell. Usually go for 10-20 apiece. Good luck

This was the post that may have caused us to search in the wrong direction and wasted time. Could you have been mistaken?

Please post back and explain more to us about this silver valve stem and find a matching pic so we can mark it solved. If you were just guessing, you need to tell us. Thanks.

 

[GMD52]

I will attempt to find a sample of the valve stem I indicated. Just sold $4500 0f Ford parts, and they may have been with them. Sorry if I tickled some innards with my speculation, and I agree that not everyone can know everything, and I have a habit of trying to help, when I should defer to others. That said, I'll see what I can find.

 

[Muddyhandz]

The metal tells a story that should help steer things in the right direction.
Looking at the heavy patina/corrosion on the brass/copper part indicates that the silver piece is in fact silver or heavy silver plate.
If it was chrome plated, that would have flaked off and turned green.
No other "silver" looking metal would have held out that good when looking at what it took to corrode the brass piece.
So, something ornamental would be in the right direction.
I like GpSnoopy's way of thinking.
Tough one!
Cheers,
Dave.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I will attempt to find a sample of the valve stem I indicated. Just sold $4500 0f Ford parts, and they may have been with them. Sorry if I tickled some innards with my speculation, and I agree that not everyone can know everything, and I have a habit of trying to help, when I should defer to others. That said, I'll see what I can find.

You need to tell us when you are just speculating. You sounded so sure of yourself, you fooled me in the beginning. I dont think its necessary to do any looking in your Ford parts..

 

[GMD52]

BC,
I was sure of my response when I wrote it, but see that I was most likely mistaken, as I viewed he picture, and saw brass, but missed silver. I'm big enough to admit a mistake, and certainly sorry I wasted your time. The key to proper IDing is getting all the information before posting and I neglected to do that this time.

But it did generate some good ideas that I learned from, and in the end I may have hindered some, but I learned more. Thanks.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

BC,
I was sure of my response when I wrote it, but see that I was most likely mistaken, as I viewed he picture, and saw brass, but missed silver. I'm big enough to admit a mistake, and certainly sorry I wasted your time. The key to proper IDing is getting all the information before posting and I neglected to do that this time.

But it did generate some good ideas that I learned from, and in the end I may have hindered some, but I learned more. Thanks.

Thank you thank you thank you for remaining cordial and admitting you may be wrong.. I really didnt want to search Ford parts anymore lol.

Im sorry if I come off as a jerk. I have been here a long time and TN What Is It Forum is/was generally known as the best online identification forum in North America and I noticed it slipping considerably lately and I am just trying to put the forum back on the right track. I hope you understand.

 

[GMD52]

Not a problem, like I said previously, I have learned more from you than I contributed. Next I'll put mind in gear, before engaging fingers. BC, have a good evening!