🥇 BANNER ULTRA RARE 1659 LORD BALTIMORE SILVER SIXPENCE DUG YESTERDAY!!!!!

Bill D. (VA)

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Oct 7, 2008
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F75 SE (land); CZ-21 (saltwater)
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Wow — I don’t know where to begin as this was totally unexpected. My detecting bud Joey and I hooked up yesterday to make the long drive to a remote rural county where we’ve researched and hunted together before. After securing permission from the owner/farmer at a site Joey had been studying, we made our way to the expansive fields that overlooked the river. Joey’s research also revealed what he believed might be an early house site on a knoll about ¼ mile from the river’s edge. We began hunting there and quickly noticed that small iron and brick frags were spread out over a rather large area, but not really concentrated in any given spot. Our finds were rather paltry in number, and when we were leaving later in the day a hunter told us that a couple friends of his had been hunting that site methodically for years which explained the lack of finds.

Anyway, we picked up a few 17[SUP]th[/SUP] century buckle pieces, musketballs and some early pewter buttons but nothing of real significance. It was interesting to note that neither of us dug any flat or even tombac buttons which, along with the other finds, seemed to confirm this was a very early site that had been abandoned after being occupied for a limited time.

About halfway into the hunt I decided to make a big loop through the field between the knoll and the river. On the way back toward the knoll I tried to walk the most likely path the early settlers might have taken between the dwelling site and where we believed the early wharf might have been. But the field was absolutely dead silent until I was about 100 yards in front of the knoll when I got a nice hit that sounded like it might be another musketball. But as I flipped the dirt out of the hole I thought I caught a brief glimpse of what appeared to be a silver edge before it was re-covered. But I convinced myself that I was probably seeing things. Then when I finally located the target I was super excited to see that I had indeed unearthed a silver coin of some sort. As I picked it up with the dirt still clinging to it I saw a shield and immediately thought I might be holding an early 1700s pistareen. At that point I hollered over to Joey and headed toward where he was hunting. While on the way I flipped the coin over and the bust was very strange looking and I knew for sure this coin was not Spanish, or at least was one I did not recognize. I carefully removed more of the dirt to reveal more details, and my first thought was could this coin be an example of Lord Baltimore coinage? But that was probably very wishful thinking as there’s absolutely no way I could have recovered something so rare and valuable as that. Joey dismissed that idea as well and seemed to think it might be some obscure coin from a European country, and had me convinced that was the case as well. It was definitely a strange coin with no date and all the Latin inscriptions. So I plopped it in my padded keeper box and figured I could do some research on it when I got back home.

A little while later I got to thinking about the coin, and began to convince myself that it had a chance to be a Lord Baltimore specimen. I had just finished writing an article for one of the detecting magazines on the history of colonial silver coinage in Virginia, and it included a paragraph on these rare coins so I had some familiarity with them already. I also recounted from a few years ago when my friend Stan and his buddy Audie dug a Lord Baltimore silver groat and copper denarium, the latter which sold at auction for about $42,000. As Joey and I headed back to the truck for a lunch break I told him I was about 80% convinced my find was a Lord Baltimore coin. We both frantically got out our phones and quickly tried to verify, and Joey beat me to the punch. He was flabbergasted when he confirmed I had indeed just recovered a Lord Baltimore silver sixpence dating to 1659! This is one of the holy grails of US coins and we were both in complete shock. I later saw on the NGC website where it was stated that Lord Baltimore coinage is “decidedly rarer” than Massachusetts silver which confirmed what I already knew as these coins are almost impossible to find. Mine appears to be the Breen 68 variety and although it does have a few small spots of surface corrosion on both sides, I believe a professional coin cleaning can remedy that rather easily. But I’m definitely not going to mess with it myself (no electrolysis this time …. haha!). I also plan to have it authenticated, graded and slabbed. If anyone has any good recommendations for where to get this coin cleaned and authenticated please post your comments here. Thanks in advance for any input. And unfortunately the coin is holed (even though I think it gives it character) and that will likely detract from its value, but that’s not a major concern for me since it definitely WILL NOT be sold.

I thought I’d end with a little background on the history of this coin for those interested. Three denominations of silver coinage plus a copper denarium were minted in London in 1659 by authority of Cecil Calvert, the second Lord Baltimore, who believed he had the right to coin money for use in the huge tract of land he inherited which later became the colony of Maryland. His authority to issue these coins was challenged and he was arrested, and only a small number were ever produced before being confiscated by the Crown, but a very small number of these apparently got into circulation somehow and some must have made it to the colonies through the pockets of early settlers. So these are extremely rare finds here in the US as well as in the UK, and the 2 that Stan and Audie dug are the only other ones I’ve ever heard of being dug in this country. I’m still pinching myself as I never thought I’d ever dig one of these beauties. Hopefully this is a good omen for the rest of the season.
 

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Bill - Banner Find? No, it's way beyond banner! It's SUPER BANNER!!! I can only check out T-Net when I'm home (my cellphone is ridiculously primitive), so I regrettably missed the banner vote. It's just as well, the votes probably came in so fast and furious that it's surprising that your coin didn't crash the website! :laughing7: That's one of the most remarkable coin finds that I've ever seen posted on T-Net. I could have easily guessed that you would be the T-Net member to make this rare discovery, as you have continued to strive and succeed for years in the research and recovery of colonial-period finds. You're the man, man! :notworthy: And I'm so happy for you. I just got my latest copy of W & E Treasures, and I knew that the picture of finds on the cover was your handy work, just by the quantity and quality of colonial-period finds. Your most recent find shows that whatever is out there can be found regardless of the odds - you just have to get out there and earn it. While you apparently didn't recovery a lot of targets that day, more importantly, everything was early colonial or presumable so - lead balls, leather mounts, nipple buttons, and finally the six-pence. I've seen other posts with killer finds, like Mass Silver, being recovered with only a sparse number of finds. There's no quantitative requirements needed on any single outing to strike a big find. Two questions please - What number colonial-period silver coin was this? I believe you were well on your was to the 200-mark. So what's next on your most wanted list? Again, congratulations on a tremendous find!
 

Bill - Banner Find? No, it's way beyond banner! It's SUPER BANNER!!! I can only check out T-Net when I'm home (my cellphone is ridiculously primitive), so I regrettably missed the banner vote. It's just as well, the votes probably came in so fast and furious that it's surprising that your coin didn't crash the website! :laughing7: That's one of the most remarkable coin finds that I've ever seen posted on T-Net. I could have easily guessed that you would be the T-Net member to make this rare discovery, as you have continued to strive and succeed for years in the research and recovery of colonial-period finds. You're the man, man! :notworthy: And I'm so happy for you. I just got my latest copy of W & E Treasures, and I knew that the picture of finds on the cover was your handy work, just by the quantity and quality of colonial-period finds. Your most recent find shows that whatever is out there can be found regardless of the odds - you just have to get out there and earn it. While you apparently didn't recovery a lot of targets that day, more importantly, everything was early colonial or presumable so - lead balls, leather mounts, nipple buttons, and finally the six-pence. I've seen other posts with killer finds, like Mass Silver, being recovered with only a sparse number of finds. There's no quantitative requirements needed on any single outing to strike a big find. Two questions please - What number colonial-period silver coin was this? I believe you were well on your was to the 200-mark. So what's next on your most wanted list? Again, congratulations on a tremendous find!

Jim - I really appreciate all the comments from someone who is a colonial fanatic like me, and who has a deep appreciation for the history represented by this coin. I'm still in a state of shock over this fortunate (and quite lucky) recovery. Like you said, its not always about quantity. Some of my best finds have come on days when I almost got skunked. You just never know what might turn up next which is why this hobby is so amazing. BTW - I can't take credit for the research for this particular site. My buddy Joey is an outstanding researcher and has a passion for the early stuff like few others, and is the one who put us on this site. So I have to give a tremendous amount of the credit for this find to him. Also, I sent you a long email reply last week in response to your PM. I know you're a busy guy but hopefully when can chat soon. Take care and thanks for all the kind words.
 

What can be said but AWESOME COIN:notworthy::occasion14::headbang:
 

All it takes is one great find to make the hunt Bill ... there's your sign! :occasion14:
Congratulations on all your hard work to find this piece and make the BANNER!

Dave
 

Bill - Banner Find? No, it's way beyond banner! It's SUPER BANNER!!! I can only check out T-Net when I'm home (my cellphone is ridiculously primitive), so I regrettably missed the banner vote. It's just as well, the votes probably came in so fast and furious that it's surprising that your coin didn't crash the website! :laughing7: That's one of the most remarkable coin finds that I've ever seen posted on T-Net. I could have easily guessed that you would be the T-Net member to make this rare discovery, as you have continued to strive and succeed for years in the research and recovery of colonial-period finds. You're the man, man! :notworthy: And I'm so happy for you. I just got my latest copy of W & E Treasures, and I knew that the picture of finds on the cover was your handy work, just by the quantity and quality of colonial-period finds. Your most recent find shows that whatever is out there can be found regardless of the odds - you just have to get out there and earn it. While you apparently didn't recovery a lot of targets that day, more importantly, everything was early colonial or presumable so - lead balls, leather mounts, nipple buttons, and finally the six-pence. I've seen other posts with killer finds, like Mass Silver, being recovered with only a sparse number of finds. There's no quantitative requirements needed on any single outing to strike a big find. Two questions please - What number colonial-period silver coin was this? I believe you were well on your was to the 200-mark. So what's next on your most wanted list? Again, congratulations on a tremendous find!

Jim, sorry but I forgot to answer your question. My colonial silver count is now up to 170 after the recovery of this latest coin. Still have a long ways to go to 200 but hopefully I can get there one day. All the best ..... Bill
 

Awesome, awesome, awesome!!!
 

Man, I am late in the game - sleep deprivation will do that to you.

Simply amazing find my friend. We both talk about seeing gold this year - I assume you will agree that this is better than almost any gold coin you would hope to find!

Best of luck and hopefully the horseshoe will find its way to me this weekend!

HH

Dan
 

Good God what a coin! Bill, with the type of work and hours you put into this hobby, you deserve to find something as fantastic as this. First one I've ever seen posted anywhere. Absolutely killer find there, and really exceptional condition. Absolutely jaw-dropping! Goes to show, one never ever expects the very best finds to happen when and where they do... and they are always hard to identify at first, precisely because they are so rare that they're seldom seen.

BIG Congratulations!

-Buck

Thanks a lot Buck. Yep, its pretty exciting to be holding an early coin in your hand that you've never dug before. Quite the adrenaline rush. I just can't imagine digging any coin with more historical (or monetary) value than this one. Just very fortunate I was able to walk over this one. Talk about being spoiled now .....
 

Congratulations - you just never know what that next signal is going to be. The thrill of the hunt.
 

What an amazing, incredible, stupendous find - and a terrific story too! I'm assuming this has to be the rarest coin ever posted on T-Net that was dug in this country. If you ever get a chance, maybe you could devote one big post, illustrating in detail with words and pictures your most interesting and rarest finds from over the years. Or at least have Western & Eastern Treasures do a spread on you (if they haven't already.) If you do post your best finds, and remember, send me a heads up PM so I can check them out.
 

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WOW ... enough said
 

What an amazing, incredible, stupendous find - and a terrific story too! I'm assuming this has to be the rarest coin ever posted on T-Net that was dug in this country. If you ever get a chance, maybe you could devote one big post, illustrating in detail with words and pictures your most interesting and rarest finds from over the years. Or at least have Western & Eastern Treasures do a spread on you (if they haven't already.) If you do post your best finds, and remember, send me a heads up PM so I can check them out.

Thanks a bunch bf - I really appreciate the comments. I like your idea about doing a big spread. Although I've written over 20 magazine articles they've been mostly about individual sites or finds, or been educational in nature. Putting together a "Best Of ....." article is a something I may have to strongly consider. Thanks again, and good luck to you up there on LI.
 

Just looked at the Redbook comments and it says many of these were holed, which is very good because a collector would definitely give this particular coin more of a pass. If mine I'd remove the dirt, slap it in a protective holder, and lock it away. I very much doubt you have to send it anywhere to determine it's genuine... and I definitely would not. No reason to. Meaning with a little looking into this, or talking with someone who is an expert on them, it will be pretty overwhelming it's good.

He is the colonial master of this site and in Virignia for sure!! WOW!
 

Huzzah and kudos sir!

Whether or not you keep or sell it, do get it appraised and insured.

Again... Congrats on the find of a lifetime.
 

OUTSTANDING Bill!!!!!
Congrats to you on another great ANNER find. :thumbsup:
-Doug-
 

He is the colonial master of this site and in Virignia for sure!! WOW!


Yes, if anyone else on this site has as many early silver in their area they're not spending enough time researching or digging. But the reality is VERY few of us have anything close to that for old sites, so it's a good thing that great finds come in many forms, and you don't necessarily need a primo old site to go with it. You do what you can with what you have, and just so happens in VA I guess that's Baltimore silver! :)
 

Yes, if anyone else on this site has as many early silver in their area they're not spending enough time researching or digging. But the reality is VERY few of us have anything close to that for old sites, so it's a good thing that great finds come in many forms, and you don't necessarily need a primo old site to go with it. You do what you can with what you have, and just so happens in VA I guess that's Baltimore silver! :)

And up in your neck of the woods its tree silver .....
 

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