ivan salis
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Ubillla's patache "nuestra senora de la regala" & the name of the preist on it
it was noted that salmon "sent padre francisco de leon y cabreria off of the patache nuestra senora de la regala in a launch to st augustine for help on august 6, 1715." ----since ubilla only had 2 vessels that were of the patache type class -- the neives and the frigatilla type vessel he bought in cuba --- the "patache nuestra senora de la regala" must be the name used for his private little vessel-- Ubilla's used the same name for the small vessel AS his capitana "NUESTRA SENORA DE LA REGALA" . being it was his patron saints name.
for the padre to be in the area to be sent off by salmon on august 6th, 1715 --that means the patache most likely went down somewhere near the bulk of the fleet-- it was a smallish vessel about 60 feet or so in size -- I personally think it might have been the small english prize vessel taken earlier by echeverz and sent to havana with a crew of 15 on her -- echeverz called it "san miguel de excelsis" -- however its recorded as "maria galante" (maybe its name prior to echevez capture of it) that was bought by ubilla and named change to his patron st like his capitana was . "nuestra senora de la regala" of patache type status
my reasoning is simple -- echeverz had the vessel "san miguel de excelsis " in harbor at havana upon arrival on Oct 2,1714 and it was not recorded as leaving with his fleet * later on july 24,1715 -- Ubilla needed a small vessel when he arrived in havana having lost 4 small vessels --he bought one * and added it to his fleet -- common sense says A sold a small ship to B
it was noted that salmon "sent padre francisco de leon y cabreria off of the patache nuestra senora de la regala in a launch to st augustine for help on august 6, 1715." ----since ubilla only had 2 vessels that were of the patache type class -- the neives and the frigatilla type vessel he bought in cuba --- the "patache nuestra senora de la regala" must be the name used for his private little vessel-- Ubilla's used the same name for the small vessel AS his capitana "NUESTRA SENORA DE LA REGALA" . being it was his patron saints name.
for the padre to be in the area to be sent off by salmon on august 6th, 1715 --that means the patache most likely went down somewhere near the bulk of the fleet-- it was a smallish vessel about 60 feet or so in size -- I personally think it might have been the small english prize vessel taken earlier by echeverz and sent to havana with a crew of 15 on her -- echeverz called it "san miguel de excelsis" -- however its recorded as "maria galante" (maybe its name prior to echevez capture of it) that was bought by ubilla and named change to his patron st like his capitana was . "nuestra senora de la regala" of patache type status
my reasoning is simple -- echeverz had the vessel "san miguel de excelsis " in harbor at havana upon arrival on Oct 2,1714 and it was not recorded as leaving with his fleet * later on july 24,1715 -- Ubilla needed a small vessel when he arrived in havana having lost 4 small vessels --he bought one * and added it to his fleet -- common sense says A sold a small ship to B
Ivan
Ivan
. I would look for more clues into how long they worked on the salvage and something maybe in the records somewhere that shows this info..It may tell you how close the wrecks are to a certain area .Im still diggin 
