Tiny Tiny 1700s gold

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Found a very interesting piece tonight at my 1764 1 Real site. Everything here is 18th century. Except the usual canslaw and shotgun shells. Its a tiny little copper shell( half real for size reference) that was once gilded that appears to have a solid gold pin attached to the back. Also two odd holes on the back. Earring? UPDATE. Just modern junk lol

 

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[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Kool item, but I doubt the pin would be solid gold.

 

[Elvis]

Still a good find. Congratulations

 

[toasted]

Kool item, but I doubt the pin would be solid gold.

Im 90% confident it is. Ive scratched the surface down quite a bit and nothing but gold is coming through

 

[islamoradamark]

Hat pin ?

 

[ARC]

Tie tack.

And not from 1700's IMO.

Sorry Toast... but my opinion.

PS... also not gold... gold plated brass or copper... by the looks its copper.

 

[toasted]

Tie tack.

And not from 1700's IMO.

Sorry Toast... but my opinion.

PS... also not gold... gold plated brass or copper... by the looks its copper.

Thanks for the input. Obviously it could be later but it would be the one thing found on this site that doesnt fit into the mid to late 18th century time frame. The shell motif was very popular in colonial times on furniture, as guards on swords, etc. Are you saying the stud on the back is plated? How can you tell?

 

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Thanks for the input. Obviously it could be later but it would be the one thing found on this site that doesn't fit into the mid to late 18th century time frame. Are you saying the stud on the back is plated? How can you tell?

No.... i think the whole thing is plated... the pin itself MAY be gold filled... i mean its possible the pin itself would be gold but this would be more indicative to an earring and usually the whole thing is or it isn't.

I am thinking several possibilities... but see that "line" near the tip of the pin... that is indicative to tie tacks... lapel pins... and modern pins in general... but hey... ya never know.

See even though my instinct opinion says to me one thing... it perhaps could be another.

I ... nor anyone else "knows it all" or even close when it comes to these things... actually anything antique etc.

If they ever say they do... they are a lie.

These things take a lifetime to learn only part.

Thats what makes this so interesting to me for one.

Anyway... yah... i think its "gold filled" OR plated.

I will add it COULD be and earring.

 

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Also. The shell was/is a symbol of fertility. Thus why I guessed a womans earring. Would love to hear some more opinions. As for wether or not the pin is solid gold, I dont care either way. Id rather know the age and exactly what this was

 

[unclemac]

gold does not oxidize, so the corrosion would indicate it is not solid gold.

 

[toasted]

gold does not oxidize, so the corrosion would indicate it is not solid gold.

The shell is not solid gold. The pin/stud may be

 

[Ia.FurTrade]

Sure looks like a pierced earring to me.....the pin, to me, is the giveaway! They are usually either heavy gold plate or real gold or silver, to prevent infection (or a green ear!)
I don't think they had that type of pin with the groove & pinch back then. They were just looped thru the ear.
But then, I'm no expert either!

My 2 cents!
Iowa Dale

 

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Sure looks like a pierced earring to me.....the pin, to me, is the giveaway! They are usually either heavy gold plate or real gold or silver, to prevent infection (or a green ear!)
I don't think they had that type of pin with the groove & pinch back then. They were just looped thru the ear.
But then, I'm no expert either!

My 2 cents!
Iowa Dale

Thanks. That was my idea on why the pin looks to have survived better if it is indeed an earring. Good point on the attachment style too but it looks like studback earrings were around back then though as you said loop style seem to have been more common

 

[Blak bart]

I have the exact same one....I think late 1800s or early 1900s ?? Not sure but that would be the time frame for most other artifacts from my spot !! Congrats...ill try and find a pic for comparison.

 

[Blak bart]

I've got to find the piece itself...only I situ shots.

 

[Colonial Digger]

Nice find, toasted , I hope you find the rest of the jewels

 

[toasted]

I have the exact same one....I think late 1800s or early 1900s ?? Not sure but that would be the time frame for most other artifacts from my spot !! Congrats...ill try and find a pic for comparison.View attachment 1920138View attachment 1920139

Similar though not the exact same. So hard to imagine the only “modern” find in a huge farm field also hapened to be on top of a colonial site and was a womans earring. Guess thats what makes this hobby so interesting Would love to see pic of back though

 

[Blak bart]

Not quite the same but damn close !! Mine has a notched post and gold back. The post is gold too !! Hell to be honest I know nothing of its age !!

 

[Digger RJ]

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Truth]

Bro you are on fire are you using beast control on your detecting at