✅ SOLVED Tiny coin I.D. help, please!

[matt092079]

A buddy of mine found this small coin yesterday. At first glance before I got home I thought it was a nickel 3 center, but after refreshing my brain with some photos of a 3 cent nickel online it's definitely not it. Appears to be a lady with some sort of cap on with stars circling around the coin. The reverse is corroded, but you can see 2 stars on the outer edge as well. The half dime is there for size. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you.

 

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[matt092079]

I actually thought of a tiny 1 dollar gold coin, which is 13 mm. Looked it up and the front looks strikingly similar to this tiny coin. Could this have been a counterfeit gold coin?

 

[QUICKSILVER (appletree)]

i can't tell is it at seated half dime?

 

[kuger]

I have dug 1/4 reales that are that size but none I have seen had a woman on em?

 

[BuckleBoy]

It is a counterfeit $1 gold. These sometimes were punched and appear on fob chains and similar items as well. GREAT find!!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Here is a photo of one version of what Buckleboy is talking about -- a false $1 goldpiece, manufactured as a form of what is loosely classified as jewelery (bracelets, fobs, charms, pendants, etc). Those don't meet the strict definition of counterfeits. Your find may have had a tab (or loop) which is broken off.

 

[CRUSADER]

As it doesn't seen to have broken off loops, could it be toy money of the period or just after, I have seen many similar British types but not sure if it happen over there?

 

[flyinryan2]

That is a neat "coin" The $1 Liberty Head (1849 - 1854) gold piece doesn't have stars on the reverse so if it was a counterfeit it's a bad one. Maybe it is that jewelry piece above but with perfect breaks where the loops would attach?

 

[flyinryan2]

Here is a photo of one version of what Buckleboy is talking about -- a false $1 goldpiece, manufactured as a form of what is loosely classified as jewelery (bracelets, fobs, charms, pendants, etc). Those don't meet the strict definition of counterfeits. Your find may have had a tab (or loop) which is broken off.

Do you have a reverse pic of the jewelry piece?

 

[steelheadwill]

Sure looks like something made to pass as a Type 1 gold dollar 1849-53, 12.7 mm.

odd to have the stars on reverse, but do the bracelet pieces have reverses?

I;ve dug a lot of period Cfts, but none that imitated gold. Super find! Congrats

 

[matt092079]

I thought maybe a civil war token, but none matched on the token website. Not to say that it just isn't listed. He found it in a field where 100 percent CW relics have came out of. I dug a "Our Country" CW token out of this field. Either way, it's a neat find for my buddy.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

They also had saloon tokens good for trade like Us gold coins-------i found a $20 fake gold 1 time

 

[Ironman!]

It could also be a Lauer miniature. These were close copies of U. S. coins made by Lauer of Germany. They were about 13mm.
Another possibility is a variation of a game counter or spiel mark. Whatever it turns out to be, it is still a cool find!!!!

IM

 

[fishstick]

What ever it is, KOOL find!!!! Good luck on an id..... HH

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Flyinryan2 wrote:
> Do you have a reverse pic of the jewelry piece?

Steelheadwill wrote:
> Do the bracelet pieces have reverses?

Here's the reverse-side photo of the bracelet. I've also seen these "jewelry" imitation $1 goldpieces with just one loop, indicating use as a pendant or "charm." Some versions have a date, like the one in the photo, which is 1864. I've see other versions with a blank back.

I should mention that the actual US $1 goldpiece had Miss Liberty's head from its beginning as a US coin in 1849, through 1854. Then it had an "Indian Princess" head from 1854 through 1889 (the final year of US $1 goldpieces). So, an actual one with 1864 date would not have Miss Liberty's head.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

As it doesn't seen to have broken off loops, could it be toy money of the period or just after, I have seen many similar British types but not sure if it happen over there?

The go to source for American play money is [h=1]Play Money of American Children[/h] by Richard and Wendy Clothier PLAY MONEY OF AMERICAN CHILDREN

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

search here PLAY MONEY

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I searched the entire play money site. Its not pictured so we can assume its not playmoney.

 

[matt092079]

Flyinryan2 wrote:
> Do you have a reverse pic of the jewelry piece?

Steelheadwill wrote:
> Do the bracelet pieces have reverses?

Here's the reverse-side photo of the bracelet. I've also seen these "jewelry" imitation $1 goldpieces with just one loop, indicating use as a pendant or "charm." Some versions have a date, like the one in the photo, which is 1864. I've see other versions with a blank back.

I should mention that the actual US $1 goldpiece had Miss Liberty's head from its beginning as a US coin in 1849, through 1854. Then it had an "Indian Princess" head from 1854 through 1889 (the final year of US $1 goldpieces). So, an actual one with 1864 date would not have Miss Liberty's head.

Thanks so much! I believe we have a match here and I will go ahead and mark this solved. Thanks a million!